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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (6 children)

If they make waving Palestinian flags in Jewish neighbourhoods a crime (and there is a case for it being a public order offence), they should also make waving Israeli flags in neighbourhoods with large Arab or Muslim populations an equivalent crime.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As with everything it comes down to intent and context.

If you accidently throw bacon on to your neighbour's garden, it's probably a mistake.

If you purposefully throw bacon on to your neighbour's garden, it's probably littering.

If you specifically throw bacon on their garden because they are jewish/muslim/vegetarian, etc, it's probably a public order offence.

The people that run the friends of palestine stand in the centre of town handing out leaflets on a Saturday afternoon and encouraging boycotting products from illegal settlements aren't doing anything wrong.

But someone who purposefully goes to a Jewish part of a town to wave a flag for the sole purpose of antagonising those who live there, it's probably a public order offence.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In Australia, the people handing out leaflets calling for boycotts would have been committing a federal crime (at least a few years ago), as advocating boycotts of allied countries was outlawed under the expansion of sedition laws after 9/11. I’m guessing Cruella is taking notes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They've been trying to clamp down on it since before Braverman was HS.

[–] OwlPaste 1 points 11 months ago

Well put, leave it to braveshit to fuck it up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you accidently throw bacon on to your neighbour's garden

I find this incredibly hard to believe. Why would anyone throw away perfectly delicious bacon? No sorry. This is an illogic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe it's moldy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That wasn't accidental though. That was pretty blatantly racist.

Dont worry about it I was just making a joke about accidental bacon throwing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How would someone accidentally throw bacon into their neighbor's garden?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I lived in a house once that only had a little 1m high fence between the front gardens / drive of my house and next door.

The bins for each house were either side of that small fence, so basically next to each other. I'm sure if a bin bag had split when I was putting it in the bin the bag's contents would have fallen on both sides of the fence.

Anyway, the point is simply that things can happen purely accidently and not break the law, which in another context - especially when done with purpose and intend - would break the law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I get your meaning, it's just a really odd/funny example.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Never let a populist opportunity go to waste. Torying rule book 101.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How often does that realistically happen, there aren't cars full of Jews doing laps of Whitechapel with Isreali flags when this kicks off, it's always the other way around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The tough guys waving Israeli flags aren’t necessarily Jewish; there’s a breed of troll for whom the Israeli flag is a convenient prop

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They should make responding violently to flag waving a crime. Except for Nazi flags.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

You don't think a Hamas flag represents pretty similar sentiment to the Nazi flag at present?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It could be enforced that way as it is. Whether it would be is a different question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Someone buy me a ticket and two flags. Time to visit the motherland.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

The party of free speech huh?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Let's make farting in public a crime.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Braverman says all sorts of crap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A “significant number” of British-Israeli dual nationals have been caught up in the conflict in Israel and Gaza, the foreign secretary, James Cleverly, said earlier.

Sunak confirmed his support for Israel, saying he stood in solidarity with the state and its people “in the face of these barbaric acts of terrorism”.

Discussing his visit to a synagogue in north London on Monday night, Sunak said he had been “unequivocal with them that we will make sure that they feel safe at this time”.

The number of Britons caught up in the violence in Israel and Gaza has yet to be confirmed, with ministers wary that official estimates of casualties and those injured are still being compiled.

He continued: “I want to reassure them we’re doing everything we can, working very closely with the Israeli authorities to establish what is happening on the ground, provide support to people where it’s needed.

Fighting in the region is continuing, with the Israeli air force announcing on social media that it was planning to launch “an extensive attack against terror targets of the terrorist organisation Hamas in the Gaza Strip”.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Bad bot, you missed the part that the headline is actually about!