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Well, we’ve had cars for a long time….but finally we’ll be testing them for safety for women, too.

In a sea of bad news, today this got me excited.

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[–] TheSlorpGuy 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From the article they cite at the top in an effort to claim that crash tests since the 1960's have only used male dummies.... ”GM also needed a test device to simulate a small female for testing of driver airbags. In 1987, GM transferred the Hybrid III technology to a dummy representing a 5th percentile female."

Not saying that a true representation of the female body isn't needed, just that this specific article is hyperbolic in its wording and is misconstruing it's sources to produce a desired narrative. Maybe best to find articles with a more nuanced, fact based reporting

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Everyone should be using mediabiasfactcheck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I listened to a podcast episode about this, I believe it was 99% Invisible. The female dummies that have been used in the past are basically just scaled down males. That's not exactly ideal.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Access denied on the link with “we don’t know how you got here”.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not sure why, but here is the same picture I put on Imgur. It's from 2014, but there are female, teenager, children, and baby crash test dummies going back decades. This is nothing new.

[–] wolfylow 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It honestly boggles my mind that in 2023 there are still no mandatory crash tests required for the female form.

Additionally, I drive a lot of hire cars and it’s shocking how many makes/models’ seatbelts would effectively garrotte me if I were to crash while driving.

[–] xkforce 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of things are still designed with men in mind unfortunately. Drug trials, car safety testing, ac systems, mental health systems etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] xkforce 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok I'll put this another way, the mental health of both men and women is compromised by sexism. Women are underdiagnosed with neural diversity like autism and adhd and disproportionately diagnosed with mood disorders. The prevalence of "men dont cry or show emotion/weakness" sexism results in men not seeking or receiving the care and support needed.

But sure, lets all pretend the system is fine and not broken from every direction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't say mental health improvement systems *taps forehead*

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Ah, so it works by design. I see, I see.

[–] Agent641 1 points 1 year ago
[–] themeatbridge 7 points 1 year ago

People come in a lot of shapes and sizes. I kind of always assumed that crash test dummies would also come in a variety of sizes to test. I'm a bit shocked that we're just now getting to the "average adult woman" dummy model, considering I'm a statistical outlier in terms of size. But thinking about it now, that does explain a lot of the ergonomics of the cars I've driven.