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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Kamelo to c/lemmyworld
 

I've seen people say that you can access kbin from Lemmy and vice versa. I can't seem to do it in browser or with Jerboa. I can't find an actual answer either.

Edit: I even noticed kbin.social is a linked instance.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is kinda hard to find communities from other Fediverse clients for now. But yes, they are compatible with each other. In fact, both are compatible with every other Federated client under the ActvityPub network, such as Mastodon.

Although for now it seems that Jerboa's search function doesn't let you search for instances hosted in Kbin for example, but I'm sure that's gonna change as both Lemmy and Jerboa evolve and become more polished.

[โ€“] BenDoubleU 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Yep! I've had issue direct searching for kbin communities here and communities from here on kbin though. I think that kbin federates very slowly.

Examples:

https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I encourage individual people to try out Kbin if they like the design or project better or whatever, but Lemmy was the only choice for me to host a community like [email protected] on, and I encourage other community mods to use Lemmy as well. Community federation and community moderation in general is simply far more mature on Lemmy at the moment. Iโ€™m very glad that I can host a community on Lemmy and Kbin users can still access it though :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hm, so you're saying that for an individual who wants to self-host a single-user instance and interact with everyone else over activity-pub (e.g. post on lemmy communities and reply to mastodon toots), kbin may be a good choice?

It does seem to me that the multiple types of published events (threads / microblogging ) might allow someone to interact easily with both mastodon and lemmy in a near-native format, but I haven't tried using it like that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Iโ€™d personally still prefer to self-host Lemmy over Kbin for various reasons (primarily because Kbin is PHP, ew), but feature-wise I would say Kbin is roughly the same as Lemmy for just browsing/interacting as a user, yes. Perhaps better for interacting with Mastodon even, but I havenโ€™t checked out Kbinโ€™s microblogging area enough to give an opinion on it one way or the other.

[โ€“] deadcyclo 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems to be kind of hit and miss. I tried getting [email protected] into lemmy yesterday. It kind of worked on lemmy.ml but only showed older posts. On lemmy.world it didn't work at all, and still doesn't.

[โ€“] BenDoubleU 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the biggest thing that turned me away from using kbin. It almost seems like it wants the community/posts from its instance to be the de facto ones. /tin foil hat

[โ€“] deadcyclo 6 points 1 year ago

I mean. Even when I take off my tinfoil hat, kbin is very immature software made by a single guy, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he spent a lot of time polishing pulling content in, and very little time on pushing out.

[โ€“] Kamelo 2 points 1 year ago

Awesome! Hopefully the increased attention will help smooth these things out.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're supposed to be able to type !community@instance but that didn't work for me. Instead, I had to go to my browser and paste the whole url (ex. Https://kbin.social/m/apple) into the search bar and then Lemmy was able to find it. It does take a while to sync though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So itโ€™s a yes and a no. Kbin can see and view/communicate with Lemmy and vica versa but kbin seems much slower in recognizing new content and Lemmy doesnโ€™t pull content from kbin by default from what I can see.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is that generally true, or only due to the DDOS protections? kbin.social has had to put in place. Those protections prevent it from federating correctly, but presumably once things calm down, it'll federate correctly again.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kbin enabled Cloudflare bot detection to fend off an ongoing attack and that is preventing Lemmy instances from pulling their content.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you talking about?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kbin enabled cloud flare protection that will hinder federation. Itโ€™s likely preventing lemmy instances from pulling feeds from Kbin. Each lemmy instance pulls its own data, instead of haveing data pushed to it.

This is the announcement from Kbin: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/10415/kbin-quick-update

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this very informative reply! Holy shit I love Lemmy; everyone is so resourceful and willing to share information so rapidly, such as yourself.

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