Both can be true. That Israel has been terrorising Palestinians, and that HAMAS is terrorising Israel.
this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2023
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And the humans in the way get chewed up
Maybe if Israel wasn’t such a piece of shit that constantly marginalizes the Palestinians to the point they created a de facto apartheid regime they would earn more sympathy on my end.
I fully agree, I've seen nothing but pearl clutchers defending Israel for two days now. Oh no, the dog you keep chained in your back yard and hardly throw scraps to broke free and attacked you, now you blame the dog?
Honestly I find it very hard to support either side in this one. Israel has as a state been marginalizing, stealing land from and generally pushing out Palestinians, and it is not exactly surprising that this will lead to support for extremist groups, but at the same time, the civilian populace of Israel itself contains many who had nothing to do with this and were merely born there, and so I cannot condone this kind of attack either. I'm not even sure what a good solution to this looks like either, splitting off Israel and Palestine would be difficult considering the disconnected nature of the two areas of Palestine, it's hard to imagine a stable or economically viable Palestinian state emerging from such a split, and both sides would have every reason to distrust the other that would probably just lead to continued conflict. On the other hand, it's hard for me to imagine a single state where both populations coexist peacefully at this point given the hostility between them for so long. Moving people around to try to create two states that have more viable geography has historically not often ended well, and would inevitably still leave minority populations in each that would be unlikely to be treated well.
I think "one nation's terrorists are another nation's freedom fighters" applies pretty well here.