this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2023

30 points (94.1% liked)

Android

27997 readers

718 users here now

DROID DOES

Welcome to the droidymcdroidface-iest, Lemmyest (Lemmiest), test, bestest, phoniest, pluckiest, snarkiest, and spiciest Android community on Lemmy (Do not respond)! Here you can participate in amazing discussions and events relating to all things Android.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules

1. All posts must be relevant to Android devices/operating system.

2. Posts cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

3. No spam, self promotion, or upvote farming. Sources engaging in these behavior will be added to the Blacklist.

4. Non-whitelisted bots will be banned.

5. Engage respectfully: Harassment, flamebaiting, bad faith engagement, or agenda posting will result in your posts being removed. Excessive violations will result in temporary or permanent ban, depending on severity.

6. Memes are not allowed to be posts, but are allowed in the comments.

7. Posts from clickbait sources are heavily discouraged. Please de-clickbait titles if it needs to be submitted.

8. Submission statements of any length composed of your own thoughts inside the post text field are mandatory for any microblog posts, and are optional but recommended for article/image/video posts.

Community Resources:

We are Android girls*,

In our Lemmy.world.

The back is plastic,

It's fantastic.

*Well, not just girls: people of all gender identities are welcomed here.

Our Partner Communities:

[email protected]

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

Your next OnePlus phone could have a whopping 24GB of RAM (www.xda-developers.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/android

17 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 18 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] golli 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there any actual benefit for so much RAM in a phone? Outside of a higher number for marketing and increasing the price? And does this also increase power consumption or is there any benefit to more RAM that counteracts that?

Personally i am still waiting for phones to become proper desktop replacements, in which case i'd maybe see more use in this. They already have more than enough performance for the average user, since 9/10 people probably just browse the web and do some general office work.

[–] kolanec 17 points 1 year ago

The benefit is they can run more bloatware in the background

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty much what I think, it’s just bad marketing.
No one need 24gb of ram on a smartphone and only very few on computer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Emulation, some switch games require 12GB of ram, advanced computational photography(HDR+, super night mode, etc), running those AI models locally on your device (think chatgpt, or something other model for audio, pictures, etc) 6 and 8GB are no longer enough. I run into multi tasking and app reload issues with 6GB of ram, if i disable samsung's ram plus. But, for the average user 8 and 12 should be sufficient.

As for your question regarding power consumption, it could be more. But, it could also be negated by reduced app reloads. I wouldn't worry about power consumption. Your display, network modem, and the SoC are one of the biggest sources of battery drain. Ram hardly adds much to the equation.

[–] delta 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can maybe see it for running an incredibly skimmed down open source LLM, but even then RAM isn’t the biggest limitation. That’s just such a bizarrely niche use case. Almost nobody needs 24GB of RAM in their phone right now. Emulation is a niche case I can see being a little more reasonable. Still insane.

[–] Wolfwood1 16 points 1 year ago

If you thought the 12 to 16GB of RAM offered with most flagship Android devices today is enough

You're wrong, I thought 6 to 8GB of RAM were enough. I'm still rocking my OnePlus 5, and seeing their last few years I don't think I'll get another OnePlus smartphone.

If you need more RAM on a smartphone than on a laptop, you're doing something wrong. You can't solve everything by just adding more RAM

[–] WEAPONX 13 points 1 year ago

Gotta make it more expensive somehow. And while we're at it let's remove some more customization options.

[–] vendofridge 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bold of XDA to assume I'd buy a other OnePlus phone, it's been all downhill since the 7 Pro...

[–] coffeemonster 3 points 1 year ago

Lol since the 5t

[–] Thade780 10 points 1 year ago

When a phone has more RAM than an Nvidia card, 4090 not included.

[–] airehiso 9 points 1 year ago

This is just "big numbers better." I can run a lot of apps on 16Gb RAM in pc, why would a small one can't?

[–] kimagure 5 points 1 year ago

Finally can play Genshin and PUBG split screen

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Bold of you to assume I am buying anything in this economy.

[–] AlEi 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The time to run LLM's on phones has finally come.

[–] psyonity 2 points 1 year ago

already here

Works decently well for me with vicuna 7B on a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra.

[–] SharpMaxwell 3 points 1 year ago

the only reason i have 32gb of ram in my pc is so i can have a shit ton of programs open at once, whats even the point of this on a phone?

[–] RestrictedAccount -2 points 1 year ago

They added a $3 SD card!

Wow