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“Regarding C.M. Punk, there is obviously tons of talk regarding him returning. There have been rumors that it’s happening, but those in WWE have only said that no deal is completed and those close to Punk have told us that it is his intention to return and the two sides are in talks. One would expect if such a deal is made that Survivor Series weekend in Chicago would be the time to do the surprise return”

https://www.f4wonline.com/newsletters/wrestling-observer-newsletter/october-9-2023-observer-newsletter-adam-copeland-debuts-in-aew


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Remember, those of us who are eternally online make up a small minority of WWE's fan base, most of them are just going to see CM Punk has returned.

I think WWE believes, and they are probably right, that they can keep a handle on him better than AEW did because he's not going to be treated like the biggest deal in the company in WWE.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's some truth to that, but I don't think it will stop Punk from exploding again. Hell, not being treated like the star he sees himself as might set him off sooner.

Though it will be significantly less damaging to WWE when he does, since, like you said, he's not the biggest name there.

[–] MolochAlter 2 points 8 months ago

Plus, if he has a fit there he'll just vindicate HHH and Vince saying he was more trouble than he's worth all those years ago.

Low key, if I were HHH, and a worse person, I'd fuck with him in very slight ways to feed his paranoia and make him explode just to drive home the point that he's not worth having around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd also wager there are a few guys that would want to immediately break a foot off in his ass just to keep him in line. "You ain't pulling that shit here, Phil."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Please let this eventual footage land on YouTube lol

[–] GeneralEmergency 5 points 9 months ago

Wrestling fans won't know what to think if Punk goes back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

A smart thing to do, if at all, would be to bring him in for a one-off appearance or very small run to get the Chicago pop, then kick him to the curb before he can run his mouth or do any damage to moral.

Smarter thing would be to not deal with him at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think he rubbed the AEW locker-room the wrong way because he seen himself as better than all the "indie" guys, which basically was the entire locker-room. He might not cause the same level of damage amongst peers that share that same ~~inflated ego~~ mindset.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, his attitude wasn't that different in his previous WWE run, from what I understand. He apparently very much saw himself as a "locker room leader", and rubbed a lot of people the wrong way by trying to act in that capacity. And he did walk out on the company after a heated argument with Vince.

We cut him a lot of slack because most of his criticisms about WWE were what we were saying all along, but looking back, none of what has gone down should have been a surprise.

[–] MolochAlter 2 points 8 months ago

Thing is, you can be right for the wrong reasons.

If both you and I say "The sky is blue" but I have lived in a cave my whole life and have never seen it, I'm taking that statement entirely on faith or pulling it out of my ass, it's not as epistemically sound as someone who has seen the sky multiple times and has indeed noted that it's mostly blue.

Punk said some correct things, doesn't mean he agrees with them for the right reasons.

If you think of the pipebomb, if you didn't know who he was talking to you'd think he was hovering at the bottom of the mid-card jerking off and collecting a paycheck.

How is someone in a program with Cena, of all people, "barely promoted"?

For that matter how is someone allowed to go off the cuff in WWE while being undervalued or mistreated?

His criticisms were valid but he shouldn't have been the one to make them about his own position.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

WWE would be smart, should they hire him, to include some contractual "this is your third attempt to act like an adult at work, if you fuck up we're shipping you to OVW" clauses cause...let's be mother fucking real here...if my Sim burns their meal twice in a row I'd be stupid to try to cook again before raising cooking up to fucking one at least, right??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

WWE usually retains the ability to cut a talent for any reason with 90 days' notice in their contracts. I don't think they'd hesitate to use it if Punk becomes a problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I mean any appearance is going to ruin locker room moral considering Seth hates Punk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

While it would be nearly impossible to happen in Chicago, I'm holding out hope for him to get booed out of the building.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Vince finally injecting the poison to kill his creation. Honestly Punk was good for that one month he came back; WWE bringing him back after everything that happened just makes me less likely to want to watch WWE.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Well that's happening faster than I expected.
I thought he'd spend a while longer as a commentator for CFFC before diving headfirst for the second brinks truck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Bizarre. WWE has nothing to gain from this except locker room problems.