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For the uninitiated, generally NSFW is for sexual contents and NSFL is for gory contents. People may want to see one but not see the other at any time for any reason. I have seen this feature requested over the years in Reddit but it never happens. Maybe now some instance can finally implement it?

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[–] qaz 276 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Wouldn't it be better to have more specific tags like movies? e.g. "Sexual content", "Gore", "Death", "Violence" or for content that you truly want to avoid; "US Politics".

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget "Musk" and "Trump"

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Perhaps categories first then the specifics? (e.g. NSFL: Gore)

[–] qaz 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would you need a category in addition to a tag?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another great one would be for phobias, being able to filter out images of a snake for example if you hate them. Sometimes the title filtering can do that but that doesn’t work when someone titles their picture “look at this cute little guy”

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

It would be wonderful with something more granular than "NSFW"...

I would love if we got something even more granular like a "Content Warning: ".

Examples:

  • Content Warning: nudity - might be a painting with nude people, might be a photo of nude people, in essence if it isn't porn, but there's exposed genitals, butts or breasts.
  • Content Warning: porn - you can probably guess...
  • Content Warning: gore - images with gore, people missing body parts, often dead as well.
  • Content Warning: death - images with people dying, but without gore.
  • Content Warning: blood - images with some blood, but no death or gore. (often seen in news articles)
  • Content Warning: violence - people fighting, but without turning bloody.

These could of course be expanded with many more categories if need be.

EDIT: added violence by request

[–] cmhe 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

At that point we get a tag system. Content Warning: politics, Content Warning: bad news, Content Warning: dangerous cuteness...

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would have thought that such a feature would be completely uncontroversial. Really weird that some people seem resistant to it.

[–] Chainweasel 36 points 1 year ago

Most of the resistance to it on Reddit was because NSFL content was technically not allowed on the site at all and adding a specific tag for NSFL material could be seen at legitimizing it. But they didn't heavily moderate it either so I don't see the point in refusing a tag for it if they're not going to do anything about it themselves either.
What really blows my mind though is the subset of people that want a NSFW tag to mean Gore/Death and a separate PORN tag for titties and such. I mean, we already have established terms for those so why not stick with what everyone already knows them by?

[–] GamingChairModel 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the Supreme Court decided this issue in Bush v. Gore, and it's been controversial ever since.

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[–] Blank 8 points 1 year ago

Some people get off on shocking others with dehumanizing gore etc. when they thought they were in for a dick pick at worst.

[–] Sterile_Technique 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've always thought, of all the options to warn us that clicking will put titties on our screen, that "not safe for work" was a bad choice.

Like, what if your work doesn't care about titties? What about the tons of other times you wouldn't want those to pop into your screen without warning, like when you're on public transit, or sitting next to grandma?

I'd vote for "LEWD" vs "GORE" or something more clear - users can decide for themselves when it is or isn't safe.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Correct, if you work for e.g. Pornhub, NSFW might have a different meaning

[–] TheGiantKorean 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can just imagine the HR conversations at Pornhub. "Steve, we have reason to believe that you've been viewing non-pornographic material at work."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My job doesnt care.

Of course i cant just browse porn all day, but clicking a random picture onnreddit with boobs?

Nobody cares

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mate we can't even hide posts

[–] vihil 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

(Sync for Lemmy has client side support for that)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

As do Connect. Still, it should be a desktop feature, too.

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[–] dx1 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Having gone through the code a bit, the NSFW handling looks very baked in, so it's not a small ask. The smart approach would be to add an arbitrary tag system and handle it that way.

[–] FunnyUsername 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is that the smart approach, or the easier approach?

I just got done reading a whole diatribe on how everything sucks because the code for everything is just duck tape on top of duck tape.

https://tonsky.me/blog/disenchantment/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I love it when my tape quacks.

FYI it's duct tape. Duck Tape is a brand that sells a type of duct tape, among other tapes.

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[–] dx1 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's both. Instead of trying to update the codebase with one new database attributes for each conceivable way to tag content, you simply put in facilities to abstract that - "show only posts with tag foobar", "hide all posts with tag foobar".

[–] Teodomo 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't care about Reddit (or about growing Lemmy) as much as the average post I see in Lemmy, but if you wanted to migrate people from the former to the latter this is one of the easier ways to help do it. It's one of those small quality of life things that are asked for periodically. If Lemmy had it it'd be mentioned in Reddit every time people are pissed with the site (which is every day for most sites, including Reddit). It'd be free ~~mouth to mouth~~ word of mouth (being ESL is funny sometimes) publicity for Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] afunkysongaday 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes please and just call it what it is! "Brutal" and "sexual" feg. Because I for one work in a sex fight fetish porn production studio so to me all of this is very sfw.

[–] reagansrottencorpse 7 points 1 year ago

Do you make those naked MMA matches that end in sex I've seen?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

The ActivityPub interface allows it to my knowledge. It's just not widely used.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

This is a good idea, anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't stumbled upon a guy getting his head chopped off when they didn't want to see it.

[–] muntedcrocodile 20 points 1 year ago

Is this a protocol or a client issue? Would absolutely love to see it.

[–] ofk12 12 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I think a tag system as suggested by others makes the most sense, as NSFW and NSFL aren't mutually exclusive.

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