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Apparently Sokolov was only a face on the screen (haven't seen the video), so prerecorded footage, deepfake or even simple video editing are all possibilities. The rest of Shoiqus quotes are pretty much what you'd expect from him.

Regardless of Sokolov the situation in Crimea seems to be in Ukrainian control, I hope they can close the bridge soon.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The cardboard-cutout-on-a-stick was judged a success by reuters I guess.

[–] Alchemy 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Since when did reuters start giving lip service to russian propaganda? They showed an undated, unverifiable video chat.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, the Ukrainian claim is also unverified.

[–] Alchemy 11 points 9 months ago

True, in this case one side is notorious liars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Exactly, though you have to wonder what proof they had to make the claim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Alchemy 4 points 9 months ago

Disgusting. Thanks for sharing, I’ll mentally flag every reuters article as potentially flawed at best, purely misleading at worst.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"The United States and its allies continue to arm the armed forces of Ukraine, and the Kyiv regime throws untrained soldiers to the slaughter in senseless assaults," Shoigu said.

The #Russian military runs on projection & copium.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Actually read this backwards the first couple times and thought to myself "Wow! That's surprisingly candid of them." Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here's a link to the actual clip: https://twitter.com/kucukmoskovali/status/1706622934234607737

The part showing Sokolov is very brief, a couple of seconds at the end of the twitter video.

He doesn't move, his eyes are closed behind his glasses, and he's propped up against a pillow.

It could be a video of a photo.

Not very convincing that he's healthy, if not dead.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand, if he's dead Russia can't keep pretending he's not forever. What are they going to say? He survived a bombing and then died by falling down the stairs 48 hours later?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's really not any kind of problem for Russia. They can just announce that due to his failure on preventing missile strikes against Black Sea fleet Sokolov resigned in shame and retired to become a sheep herder in southern siberia or something.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Oh, yes, the "the admiral went to a farm upstate" is always a classical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

News media doesn't last that long.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Lol he literally didn't move an inch, blink... nothing. Dubious even if the Kremlin wasn't known for lying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MOSCOW, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Viktor Sokolov, the commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet and one of Russia's most senior navy officers, was shown on Tuesday attending a video conference, a day after Ukrainian special forces said they had killed him.

In video and photographs released by the Russian defence ministry, Sokolov was shown apparently taking part in a video conference with Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and other top admirals and army chiefs.

Ukraine's special forces said on Monday they had killed Sokolov, Moscow's top admiral in Crimea, along with 33 other officers in a missile attack last week on the headquarters of Russia's Black Sea Fleet in the port of Sevastopol.

Earlier on Tuesday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov had declined to comment on the Ukrainian claim, referring reporters to the defence ministry.

In the video released by the ministry, Shoigu said that more than 17,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed in September and that more than 2,700 weapons, including seven American Bradley fighting vehicles, had been destroyed.

According to a Sept. 19 scorecard by the Belfer Center at Harvard's Kennedy School, Russia has gained 35 square miles of territory from Ukraine in the past month while Ukrainian forces have taken 16 square miles from Russian forces.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago