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Now watch as a commenter says communism doesn't work when every country that tried either lied about being communist, or was quickly hamstrung and dismantled by capitalist countries due to the perceived threat of communism "spreading" to said capitalist countries.
Don't "yes, and" or "yes, but" liberals/fascists. Communism DOES work. Every country that MLism has touched has radically improved by every metric.
And every capitalist country is far superior, what's your point?
Matter of fact, name one communist country that's better than a capitalist country. Take your time, it'll be a while.
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That's because it's true lol
What countries are/ or were successful under communism? I don't understand the logic behind especially when under communist rule, people were secretly killed or made to disappear to silence their political ideologies.
Cuba has been extremely successful despite the US fucking them over for 60 years. They've sent doctors across the world and even offered to help the US after hurricanes. They also sent anti-imperialist soldiers to African nations to fight for liberation on another continent. Nelson Mandela once famously openly praised Castro and his government for always being there for black South Africans in their struggle to end apartheid. He did so in response to some ignorant dumbass asking why he liked Castro or something like that.
The USSR and China were/are extremely successful. USSR was undermined at every turn by the US and generally western capital, plus some collaboration internally to make very bad economic decisions (moving towards private markets). China... well, look at them. Results speak for themselves.
The DPRK was very successful even post that whole US genociding them ordeal. Under Kim Il-Sung through the 50s until the 90s and post-USSR collapse (a major trading partner) they outpaced the US-propped South Korean state in basically everything. All of this after the US had leveled, effectively, the entire country and placed genocidal sanctions on them. For simply wanting to be a true democracy, btw. There was never any "actual" justification for war in Korea. Well, there was certainly justification for a war to remove the southern puppet(s) but not the war hero Kim who was and is beloved by his people, Chinese people respect him for his personal efforts to help liberate them from Imperial Japanese rule, and he's still seen as a revolutionary hero today to people paying attention.
And killing or "disappearing" reactionaries is overstated by... reactionaries. But, for any amount that does happen, it's generally justified because you can't have an insurgent group of reactionaries, always foreign funded (by the US CIA...), actively undermining you. No government on earth can tolerate such shit. Go start a group with funding from China (good luck with this part) with the explicit goal of destroying whatever western hellscape you inhabit and see how long the government allows you to continue.
Yeah but we have little to no involvement now and those countries are worse.
What the hell did the US do to the USSR? 😂
Biden just increased sanctions on Cuba when he came into office.
But if you want a fucking list:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions
Does that look like “little to no involvement”?
So you're saying that if we so much as set foot in a failed communist country, the US is to blame? Even the ones that failed with no direct connection other than we were in its proximity? 😂
How about a list of current, successful communist countries. How's that so hard?! Oh yeah I know why... there aren't any (งツ)ว
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Yes, and let's not pretend that western governments have never killed/silenced people for political reasons either. My grandmother could testify that there was a lot of sussy stuff was happening in US under the cover of WW2 and she personally knew people that were being underhandedly executed for spy accusations and whatnot.
Communism has failed because it fucking sucks. What are you talking about?
Log out, you're drunk
Still haven't heard of any successful communist governments ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Unless you count China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela as successful.
Want a list of all the governments that failed under communism? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Name a country better than the USA lol
Capitalism is flawed but even at its worst it's better than communism at its best. Prove me wrong 😂
Literally any country with socialized healthcare.
USSR: focus on education, free healthcare, went from feudal shithole to a world power that fed it's people, a lot of social spending, workers councils had a say in the economy, defeated Nazis
USA: millions of homeless people, horrible drug problem, college debt, most wealth stolen from other nations through imperialism, ruled by fascist sympathizers and corporations, landleeches everywhere sucking life and noney of workers
Name a country better than the USA Lol
Thanks, US would be on the bottom of my list of good countries. It's good if you want to be a rich leech, it sucks for an average Joe.
Yeah but where's the USSR now?... 😂
What the heck? The USA has all those problems, sure but it's way better than all 3rd world countries, top three in 1st world countries AND it's the strongest nation in; military, average living standards, education, medicine, jobs, etc.
I think someone lied to you about capitalism considering it's the reason why our country is so great. But let me put it the best way I know how: at its worse, no one died of starvation under capitalism - even during the greatest recessions. At its best, a shit ton of people starved to death in the cold under communism.
Is capitalism perfect? Far from it. But it works. And God bless America 🇺🇲🫡
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Funny I searched the top 10 countries in Africa and none of them ranked in the top 100 countries in the world. 😂
Every country that goes Marxist Leninist radically improves their living standards, wages, democracy, technological development, ability to defend themselves from imperialism...what countries WEREN'T successful under communism?
The only reason you think otherwise is because you have bought into a narrative fed to you by the communists greatest enemy, the capitalists and fascists.
For starters, political repression is highly overstated by the capitalists and fascists. Why? Well, because those that endure political repression in communist countries are...capitalists and fascists.
Yeah but name one. Just one.
Cuba, Vietnam, China, the Soviet Union, and plenty more, but I have a feeling you don't know what you're talking about.
No I said successful 😂
Pretty sure the Soviet Union ain't around no more lol
Like can you at least read theory before posting reactionary shit?
Communism is when a bunch of bad shit is always happening everywhere for no fucking reason at all.
Ask somebody who survived communism, like Mikhail Akhmeteli or Anastasy Andreyevich Vonsyatsky. They can back me up on that.
the implementations of communism that have existed are:
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mostly not super communist. a one-party dicatatorship owning all the property and being like "well but we, the party, are the people so... it's communist!" is. not. communism.
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nowhere near to an exhaustive set of ways to do communism
I mean… you are technically correct, but your reply suggests to me that your understanding of history is inadequate, implying that the people’s republics were all undemocratic ‘one-party dictatorship[s] owning all the property’ (???) and using exceedingly vague colloquialisms like ‘implementations of communism’ and ‘ways to do communism’ (haha).
Can I offer you a few resources on the subject?
Liberals don't want to read. Change my mind.
