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[–] Lemmitor 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the fact that we really don’t discuss it much is part of why these Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate style “manosphere” influencers (grifters) amass such a large following so fast.

Many young men are confused and it’s easy to blindly follow the first sympathetic voice you hear.

[–] CADmonkey 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been saying this over and over. The right is talking to young men, while the left has been telling them that they're evil, or ignoring them entirely.

[–] Lemmitor 2 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it seems like empathy is at an all time low, overall. I consider myself to be extremely left leaning and in my interactions with likeminded individuals, I find that they often fail to address people as people and instead of treating them as some category of social status / power dynamic.

If you want to convince people that you’re the good guys, you need to start by meeting them at their level. Being hostile is not a great way to do that.

[–] Mordred_85 7 points 1 year ago

Good Jacobin interviewed him, this is an issue to be looking at. Detaching masculinity to toxicity is vital for the future of our societies, I don’t want a “toxic feminism” just a toxic behavior to be acknowledged. Let’s move over the gender wars and recognize the real struggle is between economic classes. And the working class is losing it.