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my thermostat might have a political agenda (lemmy.ml)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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First panel: a poorly drawn figure with half-closed lids asks a smart™ thermostat "hey little man hows it goin?" Second Panel: the smart thermostat points with a large arrow at a screenshot of a graphic that reads "August Trends: Heating & cooling compared with last year", and shows zero hours more heating, 129 hours more cooling, with a small caption underneath that reads "On average, temperatures were 5 degrees warmer than August 2022" Third Panel: the poorly drawn figure with half-closed lids is shown with an unreadable smile in front of a semi-transparent image of a NASA article that reads "NASA Clocks July 2023 as Hottest Month on Record Ever Since 1880" Fourth Panel: the poorly drawn figure says "yea"

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The facts became so undeniable that they're forced to accept that things are changing, but now they insist that the changes are absolutely not related to our environmental fuckery but are a natural thing.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Humans couldn't possibly change the environment that much!" [gets in manufactured vehicle and drives an hour to work on a concrete roadway without seeing a single natural tree or animal]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'll have you know that concrete is very natural, so natural in fact, that you can grow it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was so confused by "Insulate Britain" - I thought it's some weird satire and the showsection is called "Insult Britain". But growing-concrete guy was serious and that was a real news show - crazy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Aye there's some reet proper creatures on British news shows. Scarily sometimes they don't get made to look quite as daft as that

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

The most obnoxious thing is that even if we were seeing natural warming, the greenhouse effect would still be a real thing we have directly observed on Venus and the dumbest bastard in the world should consider not making things worse.

[–] luckyhunter -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not both?

[–] dtjones 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What does this even mean? The warming trends coincide directly with the start of the industrial revolution. Even without direct evidence (of which there is plenty), we have centuries of data to show that this level of warming is statistically significant and does not fall within natural warming/cooling cycles, such as el nino/la Nina.

Maybe this isn't what you're trying to say, but I think it's extremely problematic when people use "fence sitting" arguments. It sounds like you're saying "oh well, we don't know how much warming is actually caused by man made causes... it could only be a little bit!" It's a completely false narrative but it also gives credibility to people who want to block climate progress, and I really don't think anyone should support that.

[–] luckyhunter -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Humans are animals, everything we do therefore is a part of nature. "abnormal" doesn't mean "unnatural". just like the meteor wiping out the dinosaurs wasn't "unnatural".

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except we've kinda removed ourselves from nature by making medicine and ensuring even the dumbest of us survive.

You're not a part of nature when there's not much natural selection going on.

[–] luckyhunter -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While I agree, it's far too easy for dumb people to survive and reproduce, it's all natural. Things like abortion and contraception are about the only unnatural things I can think of.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Humans are animals, everything we do therefore is a part of nature.

Things like abortion and contraception are about the only unnatural things I can think of.

What, do aliens do abortions and contraception?

Or was it created and done by humans and therefore it’s natural?

Stay consistent at least.

[–] luckyhunter -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you agree, humans disruptions to natural events are infact natural?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How did you get that from my comment?

[–] luckyhunter -3 points 11 months ago

All human events are natural, thanks for correcting me.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

My house has had 2 different AC units fail this summer. One of them failing 7 times, I shit you not 7 times.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So where in Texas are you?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dallas area

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Oof! Sorry friend.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This made me chuckle briefly, ty

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thing is, they weren't wrong. I'm in Texas.

[–] AngryCommieKender 7 points 11 months ago

I don't have an A/C unit. Just the world's largest swamp cooler, aka The Pacific Ocean.

[–] Darorad 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought mine was bad with 3 failures

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... Never buy anything from Daikin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Mitsubishi is the Toyota of ACs. Or so I’ve been told a bunch of times.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

How can it be political if all of the political parties agree it's happening and we need to do someth....

Ah, forgot about our cranially-challenged little cousins

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I lived through August with constant 36+ without an AC. Next year I'm fixing the damn thing or I'll just die.

[–] tdawg 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And the best part is tons of houses and apartments haven't been fit with proper AC infastructure :)

[–] dojan 11 points 11 months ago

Yeah that was never a consideration 20 years ago here in Sweden. It was a cool luxury but hardly a necessity.

Our homes are generally built to withstand harsh winters, so they’re great at absorbing and retaining heat. These summers are woeful, and this year wasn’t even that bad up here. We got off quite lightly.

I’m so glad we sacrificed the world for all that infinite growth we don’t get. It’s fantastic to not be able to afford a house and have no real hope for the future.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Meanwhile we used over 3000kwh each month through the cooler months just keeping the house warm to 17-18C

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