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Discussion: How would c/PS5 feel about us (the mods) shifting the bulk of our posting effort over to c/PlayStation? And, in turn, following us over there for future PS content? (self.ps5)
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In case you missed the post from earlier today, we are now the "owners" of [email protected] (in addition to [email protected]).

The mods over there transferred ownership of the community to us so that we can better grow the PlayStation community as a whole on Lemmy. Essentially, we are much more active over here on c/ps5 by comparison. We are also growing steadily in subscriber count.

How would this community feel about following us over to [email protected]?

To answer a few questions you likely have:

1. What would happen to c/PS5?

  • We would continue to be mods but consistent posting would shift to c/PlayStation instead. This means that the weekly discussion threads and regular content you have come to enjoy at c/PS5 would instead continue over on c/PlayStation. The community can continue to use c/ps5 if they wish.

2. Why transition again? Didn't you already do this with c/PS5 from Lemmy.ml to Lemmy.world?

  • This is just a hypothetical question for now and we are seeking community feedback to make the best decision. I have been friendly with the former mods of c/PlayStation since the beginning and had no intention of merging or migrating PS5 over there. They reached out and asked if we would be interested in taking the reigns and we accepted. We are now asking the community if a transition, merge, or some 3rd option would be in the best interests of both communities. Based on feedback today from a pair of posts both here and on c/PlayStation, the overwhelming opinion appears to be in favor of a merge. If you have an alternate suggestion in maintaining both c/PS5 and c/PlayStation as separate communities we are interested to hear your ideas/opinions.

3. What would change other than the community location? Would posting rules be different?

  • I anticipate that business would continue as usual. We would still mainly be a news and discussion focused community. Since PS5 is the current gen console most of the news would be PS5 focused. What would be different is that we would allow content for all PS consoles, PS Studios, and PS Movies and TV. As for lower effort content (such as screenshots, memes, show off posts, etc.) We would likely allow it in a limited fashion and perhaps introduce sticky posts or certain days of the week if posts of this type grow in quantity. We want to remain news and discussion focused.
  • Our co-mod (@[email protected]) is the lead mod for [email protected], so if you are wondering how we would run c/PlayStation, just go look at c/Nintendo and that should give you an idea of our intentions.

Again, nothing is concrete at this moment. We received a good amount of feedback from c/PlayStation subscribers on this topic in favor of a merge, but responses from c/PS5 were not too large in quantity (even though the sentiment was the same). That is why I am making this post at a different time of day to gauge interest and feedback.

Ultimately we may consider putting out a poll/survey to make this vote more official, but for now we are looking for your opinions to guide our decision together. Please post your opinions and feedback below.

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[–] theragu40 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like the idea. Gives a chance for more input. I only really care about PS5 content but right now it's more important to have larger communities with enough members to have real discussion.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle 12 points 1 year ago

PS5 as the current gen would remain a large focus. We wouldn't lose any of that content.

[–] slimerancher 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, Cosmic has talked about it a bit in a comment below, but basically, since there are now news about PS3 (and other older PS consoles), chances of mods posting anything about them is very minimal. People may start some discussion about those consoles, but currently that is so far and in between, I don't think it's currently much of an issue.

As for PS4, since PS5 is backward compatible, all PS4 related news is already posted in c/PS5 too, though with more and more studios moving to PS5 those news will become fewer too.

So, IMO, if we merge the communities, 90% of the content will remain the same as current c/PS5, but with bigger userbase, which will result in more engagement.

[–] theragu40 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that was what I was trying to get at, and is why I'm in favor of this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PS5 content is all I care about. I don’t care about PS4 content anymore. Will there be some way to filter out console-specific posts if PlayStation becomes the new norm? Will there be any cross-posting to PS5 community or will it die? I see the value of wanting something like PlayStation to be the ongoing place across PS5 and maybe PS6 etc.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My intent would be not to limit the current PS5 posting volume. So I would not be posting any less PS5 content than I do now. There is not a lot of PS4 (and backwards) specific news that happens anyway. If others wish to post this content in PlayStation it would be allowed, but from a mod perspective PS5 is the current gen console and would be a major focus. C/PlayStation would still be news and discussion focused, and as such the news will skew to PS5.

The primary old gen content that usually gets posted in catch-all communities such as this mainly focuses on show off posts, screenshots, and old game discussion posts. These would technically be allowed in c/PlayStation but as it stands now, this content is few and far between and doesn't present an issue at this time. This content would come organically from the community rather than be a mod focus.

As for post filtering, there is a lemmy tagging feature being worked on for the platform as a whole. It would work similar to reddit flair if you are familiar with that. Once that is implemented, we will absolutely be utilizing it for categorizing and filtering content. As it is right now, we do not have that functionality.

As for cross posting content, it would be allowed but would not be a major mod focus. The community for PlayStation content on lemmy in general is small. The goal of merging content under c/PlayStation would be to foster more and better community discussion. Mods wouldn't likely be focused on cross posting content as we are mainly focused on generating content in the first place. Double posting would literally double the work.

All this being said, I started c/PS5 for a reason. In moving over to PlayStation I wouldn't be seeking to lose any of our PS5 DNA. I hope the centralized community will enhance discussions for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have the PlayStation 3,4 and 5 and I’m still using all of them.

For me it wouldn’t be a problem to merge communities, but I could see it becoming a problem for someone who doesn’t care about these old consoles.

I guess, in a way, it’s also about what would be easier for the moderators and what would make you able to keep such a workload in the long term.

Thanks for the work👍

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I am in favor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in favor. However, I think shuttering c/PS5 would be better than leaving it open/active if the intent is to consolidate and grow the community. A loosely moderated and largely disused secondary community will just draw some of that precious engagement away from c/Playstation. When the PS6 is announced it can be opened back up :-)

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear this and will closely monitor the situation, but I don't have the same fears tbh. I post 99 percent of all content anyway so it would only remain as active as the second most active user. Leaving it open for the community to use if they wish is the current plan.

Although I created it, I don't believe I own it. It belongs to the community. What I do own is my own time and effort, which when I switch to posting primarily on c/PlayStation will be my prerogative.

[–] olympicyes 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So are you just asking us to vote where you should post your content? I think most of us are only here because we subscribed to the PS5 subreddit. I don’t think the Lemmy community is big enough to be so spread out just yet.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, I'm asking where I should focus community building and if the c/PS5 community would see a benefit of taking over the c/PlayStation community together. Moving efforts from c/PS5 to c/Playstation is an effort to decrease how much we are currently spread out by bringing PS5 content under the PlayStation umbrella. The benefit to c/PS5 subscribers is that there theoretically will be more people available for discussions if we move our conversations over there. Onboarding of new subscribers will be wider as well. For example, people who like the Last of Us TV show but don't necessarily have a PS5 can join in on discussions with PS5 gamers, so when the next last of us game drops there are more people engaging in discussions. Win win. Additionally there are people who love PlayStation but won't join a PS5 community because they don't own a PS5 yet. These people still have opinions and would probably engage in discussions about, say, the latest spiderman 2 game.

Just like the [email protected] community isn't strictly about the switch, switch content is still the primary content. Similarly I wouldn't be changing my posting topics or style, as PS5 is still the current gen platform and all the news focuses on that already.

Down the line lemmy is working on a tagging system similar to flair on reddit. This would allow more choice for subscribers to filter posts they want and don't want to see.

As it stands now, c/ps5 is the de facto "PlayStation" community on lemmy. We are the only active community with enough members that posts content regularly and consistently and is seeing day over day consistent subscriber growth. We would really just be rebranding and opening up a little bit in terms of allowable content. Allowing more content on other topics will not reduce the amount of ps5 content we are currently putting out.

If you are concerned about ps4-psx posts clogging up the feed, go over to [email protected] and scroll down and see how long it takes you to see a wiiU-nes post and you'll see that c/Nintendo is basically a switch community. Additionally, when PS6 comes out, we would have to build that new community from scratch, whereas if we build under c/PlayStation we won't have to. I'm just trying to think longer term.

[–] olympicyes 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think makes more sense with c/PlayStation. Having a console specific community only makes sense of people want to talk about old hardware. My sense with Lemmy is communities are built to replicate what is on Reddit but they really ought to be formed more spontaneously in response to some schism or if enough people have a need for that group.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle 2 points 1 year ago

I see your point. As it stands now, since c/PS5 is the de facto PlayStation community (we are the most active) it makes sense to broaden the topics available for discussion. Not necessarily just the old consoles, but there are now PS movies and TV, and news from the various studios, etc that don't fall neatly under PS5. When PS6 comes along we (the mods) will likely have to build from scratch again. Moving to a larger umbrella now ensures that, while we can still make c/ps6, we won't have to. We can still make and use PS5 and PS6 communities, but for onboarding more users and centralizing the ones we already have, moving focus to c/PlayStation makes sense at this time IMO.

Ultimately though, it's not going to be our (the mods) decision. I've put it up for a vote for the community to decide in a pinned post