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I live in a city where public transportation is overcrowded, there's constant vehicle traffic, and you can't depend on any commute time for a given day or hour. The average temperature is very high, so walking is a sweaty affair.

The only way I've found to make this city more usable is with an ebike and scooter. It's like the perfect vehicle for these conditions.

However, many people reject the technology and either choose their car or other forms of getting around.

Is it because it's not well understood, or seems too expensive?

I'm curious what sold you on the technology or what is the reason you're not making the leap.

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[–] Lemisset 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it would be safe to take an ebike down the stairs from my bedroom to my home office.

[–] nucleative 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, fair enough. Do you go to the grocery store or out to restaurants? What do you use to get to those types of places?

[–] Lemisset 1 points 1 year ago

I have a family of 4 and tend to only eat out rarely and most often as a group. We drive a car there. For groceries we tend to take our van since we go every other week and it's hard to fit all the groceries in the car's trunk. The store is only 4 miles away, so in theory you could make several trips with a bike, but it's not very practical.

Sadly, public transportation is non existent in my area, and we get snow and ice in the winter. I'm excited for a future where electric vans become affordable so we can ditch our ICE vehicles.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here's the problem-

I have to ride through my subdivision. Not that big a deal.

Down a road with no shoulder. Getting to be a bigger deal.

Down a four-lane highway. Getting to be a super big deal.

Then through an industrial park that semis constantly drive through, also without a shoulder. Pretty fucking stupid to bike there.

Oh, and none of this is within city limits.

One day I hope to work from home the whole time instead of a half-and-half hybrid schedule, but until then, any sort of bike isn't practical. I do have a hybrid and my commute is only 10 minutes long, so it's not a huge impact, but I'm not going anywhere bike-friendly except my subdivision.

[–] nucleative 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think the major problem with adoption is the infrastructure?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely, but you can't expect infrastructure like you have in a city that you do outside city limits where both I live and where I work is. At some point, you just can't expect the money to be spent on that sort of infrastructure. I absolutely believe cities should move to be as carless and pedestrian and bike-friendly as possible, but you're not going to see that on county roads or rural stretches of highway.

[–] nucleative 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree with this, micromobility isn't meant for 5+ miles/kilometers as that's the domain of larger vehicles that can handle speed.

Can I ask why you don't live in micromobility range and how that decision might be impacted of the cost of a car were eliminated?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, the place I work is not inside city limits. It's in a rural industrial park. Even if I moved to city limits, it still wouldn't be practical for me to bike to work because it doesn't solve many of the problems and create new ones. You might as well ask why I don't just get a different job. Which is getting to be unreasonable.

[–] nucleative 2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, it doesn't seem like your stuation is one that micromobility attempts to address.

When I was much younger I lived at a place about an hours drive away from my work a decided that I'd rather pay more to live in a smaller place, closer to the workplace and regain almost 10 hours of my week. It was worth it to me. But I know it's a matter of preference and ability as I didn't need a larger home at the time.

Now that I'm in a city center (of a huge city, metro area more than 10 million people) for similar reasons, micromobility is a natural fit.

[–] deweydecibel 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Comfort. Commute is always miserable, I'd at least like to do it sitting down, in air conditioning.

Time/distance. Even if it helps bypass traffic inside the city center, it doesn't help with the first part of the commute which is getting to the city. Am I supposed to pay for parking at the city edge and take a bike the rest of way? Rather than use the spot my employer provides for free? Strictly speaking, the distance to the city edge isn't so far as to make biking impractical for me, but whatever else it saves, it definitely won't save time.

Transporting things other than myself. Oftentimes I'm moving other things to and from work besides myself, and often times it's more than what can fit in a bag. Not a universal concern, but it is for me.

I live outside the range of where the local ebike rental service distributes them. Moreover, you can't exactly count on them being when and where you may need them. That obviously unique to the rental services, though.

Weather. Should be self explanatory but I don't want to worry about rain, and doing this in winter is out of the question, at least around here.

Last, and this goes for any type of transportation other than my car, at the end of the day, the idea of getting on the bike to get home feels exhausting. Like, I can muster the energy to do it in the morning, but after work? Knowing that I have to make that ride home after a hard day rather than just sit in my car and chill is not appealing.

[–] CADmonkey 1 points 1 year ago

I don't ride because I'd 100% get killed by someone's jacked up diesel truck in the first month. At least on a motorocycle I can avoid the situation.