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[–] woelkchen 247 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Wait, the mod removed the option to set a gender in the character editor? Why don't these people just make a male character and be done with it?

[–] [email protected] 178 points 9 months ago (22 children)

Because it's not actually about the pronouns. These people aren't actually angry about pronouns.

They're angry about trans and non-binary people. They're angry that people are growing to accept these people, who they do not think should be accepted. They are angry that a group they don't think is normal, is being accepted as normal.

[–] Sludgehammer 63 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I don't think it's even about that, they're angry because the want to be angry. The why doesn't matter, if the current right wing outrage du-jour had been... I dunno, left handed people rather than trans people, you'd see all the same people working themselves into a screaming tantrum if a game or movie had a left handed person in it.

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[–] ForgetReddit 112 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They need to force their views on others. If anyone believes what they believe, then they are suddenly just like everyone else instead of the bigot they know they are deep down

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They aren’t really forcing their views on anyone though, they’re just jacking themselves off. No nonconforming person is going to download this and inflict it on themselves, and they have no reason to use it themselves unless they’re just really closeted and lack the will to not express their own nonconformity. It can literally only exist to rile people up who sought out the mod specifically, which includes only them.

[–] ForgetReddit 37 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If they weren’t trying to force their views on others they’d just make their character a guy and move on. They go through the trouble of coding this mod to push their agenda on others.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The crazy thing is how hysterical they're being over something you can fail to even notice is there. It gave me male pronouns as I choose the male body type, and the button prompt to change it is hidden way down at the bottom of the screen. It's literally on screen for a few seconds and then never mentioned again in a game with hundreds of hours gameplay.

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[–] zoostation 50 points 9 months ago

Then they couldn't do their performative outrage, which is all they have.

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

To confused people exploring from all Communities trying to understand what the hell is going on:

  • Bethesda is a game studio who does a decent job of giving people choice to do/be whatever they want in their games. Out of the box they included the option to choose your pronouns in a new game called "Starfield".
  • They also make it possible to modify their games to make very drastic changes to the player experience.
  • Nexus is a site that hosts thousands of mods to all sorts of games. People make mods, upload them to Nexus and players download them.
  • Someone made a mod to remove the option to choose pronouns from Starfield.
  • Nexus decided they don't want to host this mod. It's hurtful to people and goes against their values of inclusivity.

That's about it. Most of the people whinging about censorship don't even play the game. They're just here to whinge about how the world is moving on from old bigoted ways and they want to stay in the past and be jerks to people for merely existing. If they actually cared, they'd just download the mod from some other site. The mod itself is probably not much bigger than this reply.

[–] Chailles 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most of the people whinging about censorship

To further add on that, to complain about censorship for a mod that LITERALLY censors the game.

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[–] drislands 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll add that my understanding is that you aren't even prompted to choose a pronoun in-game -- it defaults to one or the other based on your character creation choices, and you can then change it if you want to. It's literally a non-issue.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 9 months ago (35 children)

This is all fine and well, but am I the only one a bit concerned about how NexusMods is practically a monopoly in the modding scene? Why does literally every modder have to use a rate-limiting host as a platform, especially when Github exists?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Well, for one thing, Nexus gives modders a share of ad revenue. Under a different name, I have a mod that's a backend requirement for a big, popular mod, and that nets me a reliable few bucks a month.

That said, a good portion of the modding community also exists on Gamebanana. If you want BotW, ToTK or Source engine mods, GB is the go-to.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, github does exist. It looks like people just prefer platforms with a pre-existing community.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Steam workshop exists as well, for games that support it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Natural monopoly. Nobody else offers as good of an experience. The closest is ModDB and their UX is stuck in the mid 2000s.

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[–] frunch 79 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I swear to god, every time i hear about conservatives getting upset about gay and trans rights I'm more convinced it's projection. They want to have the freedom to follow their own preferences but have been taught by someone in their family and/or society that certain preferences are completely unacceptable. Rather than go against the grain, they lean into the hate side of it. "If i can't have that, you sure as hell can't--and if you do, you're gonna pay dearly" seems to be the philosophy. All this because they want to explore their sexuality but they decided the social price is too much. Not allowed to have what they crave, now they just scorn those that are brave enough to face the storm they themselves avoided...or they just hate people having freedom. Probably both.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago

Considering their policy doesn't allow for other stuff like this, yeah I am not surprised.

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Reminds me of the time when a Spiderman mod removed the VERY few instances of a pride flag in a recreation of NEW YORK CITY and a Skyrim mod that removed any potential gay romances that only occur when wearing a very specific amulet (including a single dead skeleton couple off the beaten path.)

Those got booted as well cause.....come on now. Its blatantly targeting a group of people about their sexuality and gender who have BARELY any presence to begin with in these games.

Starfield is even more egregious as its LITERALLY just a menu option and the rare use in dialogue....

Really pathetic and sad people would even feel the need to make them to begin with. Let alone feel the need to upload them to a platform.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Does anyone even install these mods or do they just exist for people to get outraged at?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I would imagine a bare handful of people install them.

There's some number of people who are so angry and stupid that the mere sight of something like an option to choose pronouns fills them with blind, seething rage, so for them, mods like this are essentially QOL improvements.

More's the pity...

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Demuniac 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How are these people not seeing that they are actively trying to censor shit with the shyte excuse "keep politics out of my games", and then turn around and yell censorship as soon as people ignore their bigoted crap.

You don't need to answer, it's rhetorical.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Incredibly petty mod to make in the first place, so Nexus might as well be petty too and remove it.

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