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    [–] Waitwuhtt 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'm on the verge of switching my gaming PC to Linux, the bloat of windows is becoming too much. I'm fairly PC literate but don't know anything about Linux or distros. It is intimidating to commit to a platform where I know so little. Does anyone have any tips regarding distros or learning the basics?

    [–] rgamuffin 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Look at ProtonDB to see what games you own will run on Linux.

    Pop OS: is a good Ubuntu based distro.

    The Nobara Project: is a Fedora based gaming distro.

    Drauger OS: is another good gaming specific distro.

    Each of these has their own pros and cons depending on your needs and hardware. Google is your best friends here. You will have issues with a game not working like you want. Again Google will be your best friend here.

    My biggest suggestion is to embrace the challenges. Understand that in the last two years alone gaming on Linux has improved dramatically. Stay with it Linux is always maybe a better experience overall even if some of our games don't work right now.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    With Redhat going kinda closed-source, will its derivatives like Fedora remain viable?

    Don't remember how Canonical shit the bed, but I'm wary of using Ubuntu derivatives.

    What would you recommend for a distro that keeps on top of security updates and is at least acceptable in terms of running games like AoE2 DE or The Outer Worlds?

    [–] Deltharien 5 points 2 years ago

    As a Linux home user that uses windows for work, I recommend you start by debloating your windows. I prefer the Powershell script found here. There are multiple options for debloating windows on github, some also include tools to disable telemetry. I prefer more control over what telemetry gets disabled, and use O&O Shutup to manage that separately.

    Then install a few Linux distros in a free hypervisor (Hyper-V/VirtualBox/VMware Player) on your lean windows. Note, Hyper-V is only avaliable on Pro versions of windows. Experiment until you find a Linux distro you are comfortable with. Build your confidence before you take that jump, and you'll be more likely to stick with it.

    If you still find you may occasionally need windows, you can always dual boot, or run windows inside a hypervisor on Linux.

    [–] Willer 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I put pop os on my media and travel netflix laptop. Best decision ever.

    Dont switch to linux if you want to play rainbow six siege lol

    [–] verylanghui 1 points 2 years ago
    1. Learn about the different desktop environments (DEs) available for Linux. For example, visit this link (https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/) to download ISOs for KDE, XFCE, GNOME, Cinnamon, etc. You can use Ventoy to create a bootable USB drive and add multiple Linux ISOs to it for testing purposes (without Ventoy, you would need to write one image at a time to the USB drive). Try running them live to see which one you prefer. In my opinion, KDE is a solid choice.
    2. Consider getting a secondary drive to install Linux on. Don't worry too much about the specific distribution; you can reinstall Linux as many times as you want. Just be careful not to accidentally install the boot loader on your Windows drive. Try using only Linux for a day or a week.
    3. Personally, I have tried many Ubuntu-based distros, but I really started using Linux after trying Arch-based ones. I think EndeavourOS is a solid choice. Garuda is also good, but you might want to unrice it first. Also, Arch wiki is a godsend.
    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    installing something goes slightly awry

    system still runs fine but there are a couple empty read-only folders on the drive

    "Oh no! My perfect system is BORKED!"

    reinstall the os

    [–] janonymous 8 points 2 years ago

    If it doesn't feel clean I need to redo everything!

    [–] Alkider 6 points 2 years ago

    A part of me hates how accurate this is XD

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    I feel personally attacked by this

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm at the point where I actually don't want to reinstall anymore, because it's a pain in the ass. I'm still on Ubuntu 20.04, even though the new LTS version has been out for more than a year by now. Ubuntu's current direction doesn't exactly give me an incentive to update, either, but to actually rectify that situation I'd need to reinstall as well.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    If you ever do decide to jump, I recommend PopOS. Based on Ubuntu, no snaps.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'd rather switch to Debian, TBH. Derivative distros (or rather double-derivative) like PopOS don't feel all that safe to me.

    [–] Kutsuya 3 points 2 years ago

    Safe? What kind if Safe?

    [–] mattaw 3 points 2 years ago

    Debian with the wonder of containers! Of course for my laptop I'm just going to have to run something very modern but that's not really debians fault.

    [–] dufkm 2 points 2 years ago

    I switched to Debian with KDE after using Pop!_OS (sp?) for a while. Felt more at home with KDE than Gnome/Cosmic as a long time Windows user, and frankly their distro name annoys me. Really happy with Debian 12 so far!

    [–] marswarrior 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Backup all your config files, reinstall OS, restore config files. Done. When I do it, the whole process takes a half hour tops. Let me know if you need help with that.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I've reinstalled OSs before, there's generally a lot more to it to get it running like before. For starters, half the config files don't work properly on the new OS because the application versions are different, unless you're just switching between Ubuntu flavors.

    [–] marswarrior 2 points 2 years ago

    I switched from Fedora to Arch, restored my config for i3wm, polybar, firefox, brave, picom, ranger, vifm, and a whole bunch other apps, no issues with version compatibilities. Which apps did you have problems with?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

    Spending more time making an install script to put everything in the right place than using Linux itself

    [–] marswarrior 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Rolling release means I never have to reinstall linux. Unless it breaks and I don't know how to fix it. So far It's been 1 year on Arch.

    [–] jcg 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] marswarrior 2 points 2 years ago
    [–] cashews_win 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    6 years on Arch with no re-installs. Most reliable distro I've used. 👍

    [–] marswarrior 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    That’s impressive! What’s your setup like, I’m assuming you don’t have too many unnecessary packages installed to minimize the time spent troubleshooting issues?

    [–] shrugal 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    What does the release cadence have to do with that?

    [–] marswarrior 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    A rolling release Linux distribution continuously provides updates as they become available, without the need for an OS re-installation to get the latest released version.

    [–] shrugal 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You can update a standard release distribution just fine, no need to reinstall anything. It does basically the same thing as a rolling release, just not as often and more packages at once.

    [–] marswarrior 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    sudo do-release-upgrade -d for Ubuntu

    [–] cashews_win 5 points 2 years ago

    Since switching to Arch Linux distros I've never felt the need to re-install. Arch has also been the most reliable distro for me which flies in the face of convention that rolling distros can be unreliable.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Yeah, had to do it yesterday.

    My fault. I did one thing you shouldn't do: Copying a command from the interwebs and deliting vital Python packages in the wake ...

    Yeah, I love to redo my setup.

    inb4: use NIX!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    i may be stupid but why are python packages so important to your system ?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    Because my laptop has no screen, thus I'm blind until the Nvidia driver loads.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Ughh this is me , I'm going to do it. It's been since 2016 I've had Linux installed. Why not again

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    Me after my fifth dkstro hop

    [–] PriorProject 2 points 2 years ago

    Why not? WHY NOT!?!!?! Because to re-install Linux you would first have had to de-install linux, which is not allowed.

    [–] Alkider 2 points 2 years ago

    Sounds about right, especially with AMD drivers. Windows 10 messes them up and nukes the os, leaving linux as the only thing that works on my PC lol

    [–] shotgun_crab 2 points 2 years ago

    Accurate, distrohopping is quite the hobby

    [–] TheInsane42 2 points 2 years ago

    Started with Slackware 1, then RedHat 4 (non-el) and when that needed a re-install on a major upgrade, switched to Debian. (In '95-'96). Only re-installs I did since then were after failing hardware or on new systems. (Tried Ubuntu once, that system runs Debian now ;) )

    Rolling upgrades are great, but leave a mess, which is why I do a clean install on new systems. (Unless the laptop dies and the storage still works, then that is transplanted with the idea of just copying data and ends up main disk until the setup dies)

    [–] BushWizard 2 points 2 years ago

    I have been going through this dance for the last year, and I swear if not for clip studio I would have already dumped windows a long time ago. I have found an alternative for almost everything else (OneNote, Premiere, etc) but dammit, those vector layers are like a lifeline for me.

    Blender's grease pencil is looking very appealing, but it's sheer scale e scaring the shit out of me lol

    [–] PastorHaggis 1 points 2 years ago

    I've been thinking of going back to linux off and on again. The last time I did it, the games I wanted didn't work on Linux but that was, primarily Halo Infinite, but at this point most of those games suck. I'll have to check if Diablo will work and I'll especially be upset if Started doesn't work, but Linux is very enticing again.

    The other issue I had last time was seeing fan curves was a nightmare, so I'll just have to find a good tool for that.

    [–] samaritan1331 1 points 2 years ago

    I had a perfectly working Debian desktop a year ago but I still wanted to try out fedora. I thought I found the perfect distro. Fast forward 3 different distros later. I'm now on MicroOS. I promise this will stay for a while. (Will it?)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Recently had to get Linux running on a VM so I could get kbin running locally for some PRs. I'm still struggling to understand what's eating my ram. The VM has 12GB of ram associated and it just runs docker, node and npm, I'm really at a loss as to what's eating it all (when in the process view there's no process even showing high usage)

    Anyone know if this is a Ubuntu on a VM thing, a docker thing etc?

    [–] Evrala 1 points 2 years ago

    Spent a few days distro hopping. Fedora broke and after the Redhat news I was feeling bitter so I distro hopped to my good old standby of OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Got everything installed and customized how I liked, but then found audio glitches in any game I launched :(

    After all the common pipewire (stop it phone, I don't want pipeline) fixes didnt work I threw up my hands and went back to Garuda Gnome.

    My new goal is no distro hopping till new laptop at the end of the year... or when KDE 6 hits. I like KDE better than gnome for most things, but the TouchPad gestures in Gnome are too good to give up.