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What are cis and trans alternate types of? I don't think it's "gender identity" because wouldn't that just be man, woman or nonbinary regardless of whether they're cis or trans? Cis/trans just being a qualifier?

If the answer is "I am cis" or "I am trans", what is the question?

Edit: Someone came up with the term "gender congruity" and (after looking up the definition of "congruity") I think this describes what I'm talking about perfectly.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Simply, a cis person identifies with the gender they were born with. You were born a man and identify as a man, a cis man. A trans person identifies themself with a gender different than what they were born with. You were born male but identify as female, a trans woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If the answer is "I am cis" or "I am trans", what is the question?

The question would, to be blunt, be "are you cis or trans?", because "cis" and "trans" are just shorthand for "cisgender" and "transgender".

It's a question of very limited scope -- even if you were to reword it -- because in modern society, the exact detail of if someone is cis or trans isn't really practically important. If someone is a man, say, society cares a lot more about them being a man rather than being a cisgender man or a transgender man. (I'd say the same about women, but there's obviously a subset of society that is in the process of demonising trans women, so...)

I think the core issue you've found is that cis/trans-ness is something that only makes sense in the context of something else, the gender identity of the person in question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree with what you're stating and I hope that that's where we are headed - there just being man, woman, and non-binary gender identities. For now though, as I see it, cis/trans become relevant in three ways (off the top of my head):

  1. Medical situations - self explanatory
  2. In pursuance of romantic/sexual relations - society is still at the stage where the visual perception of a person lead to certain presumptions. Not everyone may be okay with dating/having sex with a person who has different genitalia than they presumed that their partner would have.
  3. [This point is my personal opinion] The visibility of people openly owning their journey can be a source of information, give courage to others who are undergoing the same journey and are scared or confused. I knew about my orientation way before I realized that there's a term for it or that their are others like me.

I hope I got your query right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm still not sure where the term cis comes from.

It reminds me of sans, as in 'without'

Sans Serrif means a font without the twiddly bits at the end.

Cis Serrif, a font with the twiddly bits it was born with?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Cis-" is a Latin prefix meaning "on the same side as" and "Trans-" is a Latin prefix meaning "on the other side of".

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