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So I live in a (relatively) big city now. I'm always fascinated by the (social) super structure that is a city, and also by public transport inside cities. I like how life here never stops. You can find things to do at all hours of the day. I like all the weird and strange things the city has to offer.

It also has it's downsides. It gets busy, polluted, dirty and noisy. There's an airbnb close to my appartment and the guests party til 6 in the morning sometimes, on weekdays. If you complain, people say 'you live in a big city, what do you expect?' like it's the normal thing to do. I miss nature sometimes.

I think I'll eventually move to a village. Preferably at sea. But to be young in a city is a blessing at the moment.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

in a socialist city
in an apartment with good noise isolation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

City. Very much looking forward to how much better cities will be with socialist development.

GOODS FOR THE PEOPLE puts it well:

The future belongs to sustainable smart cities.

Ecologically speaking, increasingly concentrated mega cities is the only path toward a future of harmonious integration of humans and nature. Socialist cities of the future, such as the Forrest City being developed in the PRC, can develop and function in much more rational, healthy, and communal ways than random chaotic development under the tyranny of private ownership of land and industry.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I'm excited about the prospect of socialist cities as well. With lots of greenery, good quality housing, walkability, functional public transport etc. I hope to be able to see it in my lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you provide a link to the book your talking about I can’t seem to find it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

GOODS is a communist clothing co-op. It's from the blurb on the page for their Urb shirt.

Their manifesto is pretty all right, too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately despite its niceties, suburban living is harmful for the planet. Humans should limit their footprint by concentrating in cities.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm in city outskirts next to forest and staying! I love the city but hate centers for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I gotta live in a city where I can walk to stuff and see people. Even my current city feels too small and its almost a million people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

having lived in a big city (say >500k population) and a small city (<500k population), i much prefer the slow lifestyle of small city. I can get to many places by walking (tho our climate is atrocious), and in car i can get anywhere in 5ish minutes. There is not a lot of stuff to do and city is practically dead at 10pm (other than drinking related stuff) but i prefer staying at home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've lived in all three, currently newly moved into a pretty tiny village in the middle of nowhere. I'll admit I grew up in a big city and spent pretty much most of my life in one, and recently I've lived in a smaller quieter town, which seemed slightly better. But circumstances have led to me currently residing where I am, and I have to say that initially it's great. Everyone knows everyone, theres less noise, you can actually see the stars, and it seems wonderful. But then idk, I guess its might just be me, but I have started to slightly lose my mind from boredom, since nothing ever happens here. It's too far out of the way from any big places for a quick trip into town, and it's agonizingly dull at times. Keep in mind I'm in the third world, so I don't know how it would compare to such a place in Europe or the US, which is where most of you seem to be, but out here the experience isn't ideal if you're a relatively young and ambitious person. Maybe when I've retired and need someplace quiet to sit around while I wait for death, but right now I can see why everyone below 40 here is either itching to get out to a big city, or go abroad and never come back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The perfect living spot for me has to be a few kilometers away from a big city, a distance I can walk to get somewhere that has jobs and cool stuff, while also not having to deal with waking up to car horns

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The city. I understand the appeal and tranquility of living in a quiet place at the countryside, but I have spent more than two decades living in a village with little to offer (and what it had to offer being rather expensive) for me to want to live in a big city - The larger, the better. These are, after all, the centres of culture, arts, sciences and progress, and it is impossible to ever leave no stone unturned.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

smaller towns. around 100-200k people. i've spent most of my life in them and like having things close by and the atmosphere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

100-200k is the average size of a city where I live lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I hate cars and pollution, so not big upsides on either. I guess I don’t care as long as there’s good transportation and healthy native ecosystems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

small town that orbit a big city, u get the best of all worlds, small towns are less crowded, less noisy, less dirty, has enough nature in it but no so much annoying critters like mosquitoes, rats and cockroaches. have access to local fresh produce and when if u meed something only available in a big city, since it is close u can go.

but because of the nature of my job (programmer), most jobs are available only in big cities, so i want to live in one and have access to culture and my nerdy shit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I lived most of my younger years in arguably one of the biggest cities in the world, I don't regret it. Very recently moved from Tokyo to a much smaller town. Not quite countryside, but it is in the mountains and significantly smaller than Tokyo (<100,000 population in the whole area compared to millions).

There are things I miss about Tokyo; I love cooking and the ready availability of international markets and ingredients was definitely nice to have. Public transportation was WAY better in Tokyo, and might be the biggest thing I miss. It doesn't take me long to get back into the city if I really want to, but honestly I have only done that a couple times so far.

However, it is much cooler, cleaner air, and generally a less fast-paced lifestyle that I can appreciate. Nevermind the cost of living differences and the amount of space I have. My flat is almost 3x the size of what I had in Tokyo at the same price, and my area is actually fairly "expensive" for an area outside Tokyo.

If my work allowed for it, I wouldn't mind going more rural. Having land and being able to grow some of my own veg would be wonderful. I would prefer to stick to the mountains, I don't do hot weather well. It would have to be a job I could do remotely though, because my field wouldn't really have many opportunities in the countryside.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

City outskirts, I like the city itself too.

I don't really get the obsession some leftists have with making everything go to town and country, I love cities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd love to live on the outskirts of a good city - quieter, with a bit of garden to raise veggies, and access to public transportation would be nice.

It ain't gonna happen, but it'd be nice

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I kinda don’t like being in large cities. It’s fun to visit but I don’t like staying there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I want to live in a village one day, or at least at the edge of the city. I want nature around me. It's hard in the Netherlands since cities are surrounded by almost nothing but farmland

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All options are fine so long as there is reliable public transportation in the city, and it's walkable. If not then I believe the village and rural options are superior on account of not having terrible traffic (in most cases). So really most American cities are pretty terrible places to live. The big American cities have firmly fallen behind contemporary places in Europe and Asia and imo it's not even close. Hard to say the country is livable unless you're labor aristocracy and above and that realization is really the only reason I'm coming around to going back to school.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in a town on the outskirts of a city

Edit: fixed typo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My fav activities requires me to be in the countryside. Though I may be a socialist, my hobbies suggest I’m a libertarian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

can you elaborate lol? which hobbies are for libertarians lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Shooting guns, testing loads, hunting, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel that countryside is too lonely and isolated for me. I went to a cousin’s rural area home and it’s a bit too much self-reliance. Cities are nice but seem too expensive to live in for me personally (I have before)Suburbs or villages (depending on your area) are a nice compromise. I especially like larger ones that have a few extra shops that smaller ones may not (soccer isn’t popular here in the US, most small towns have like Barcelona jerseys nothing else, so some larger towns will have soccer jerseys from more teams, also usually a few more nice restaurants and stuff) it’s also pretty safe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shouldn't we, as MLs, aim for the erasing of difference between countryside and cities? As described by the communism theoreticians of the past. Village life with city-level infrastructure, for example

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That should be a good thing to strive for