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The US should not normalize Modi’s autocratic and illiberal India at the G20 (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Despite his lip-service to democracy and human rights, Biden keeps embracing autocrats and would-be autocrats

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[+] Bye 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's always a choice, but while Modi's India is a fairly bad ally, it's still better than others, like Saudi Arabia. Gotta pick your battles.

Maybe some day when the important conflicts are in a different region we can take India to task over things like their police-sanctioned cybercriminals that keep robbing the elderly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

police-sanctioned cybercriminals that keep robbing the elderly.

Lmao. The police here are far too busy harassing innocent citizens to do that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they have a choice. Ignoring India's issues including that they in fact increase trade with Russia massively is not what stops them from going on like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Making an enemy of a country with 1 billion people is absurd reddit-tier kind of logic. It's far better to have a country like India as a close ally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yes, but ignoring their issues doesn't make them a close ally. Just another one roughy affiliated, that knows it can do whatever without consequence other than strongly worded letters.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The US already has one enemy with a billion people, why not two?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Why would India join any sphere? India's success historically has always been from a policy of neutrality and having the Himalayan mountains block any ideas against that neutrality.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Why would the US stop supporting autocratic and illiberal regimes now? Did we find our principles at any point in the last 70 years?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Illiberal? The BJP party and the RSS are fascists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Can confirm, it's literally 1939 and we force Muslims to wear gold stars and send them to concentration camps.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

PM Modi says "Identify them by their clothes", and all over India Hindu supremacists beat Muslim men to death after forcing them praise the Hindu god Ram.
PM Modi ignores and refuses to discuss the ethnic & communal genocidal civil war in Manipur that is in its 5th month, while churches are burnt and Kukis have been ethnically cleansed from Imphal valley.
Peacefully protesting Sikh farmers are called Khalistani and terrorists while a violet hindu supremacist attacks them under Delhi police's eye.

[+] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know when he said that but he was the same guy under which 2001 happened, so I don’t doubt it.

https://youtu.be/WvdqK09BWBs?t=57

But muslims lynch hindus too

Please don't lie, Indian Muslims neither force Hindus to praise Allah nor do they lynch Hindus.

don’t know when this happened. :(

What do you know then?

Although I supported the Sikh farmers, they were not peacefully protesting.

You are lying. India's farmers had been peacefully protesting the pro-corporate farm laws that Modi rammed through Parliament since they left their homes to meet the PM in Delhi. On their way, they were subject to state violence in Haryana by Haryana state govt & central forces, then they were prevented from entering Delhi by Delhi police and central paramilitary forces who barricaded the roads, created concrete barriers, and planted iron spikes on the roads. India's farmers rather than react violently sat down on the public roads that they were stopped on. They braved rain, floods, winter, Delhi's fiery summer all without any violence on their part. Violence was inflicted on them throughout by the Modi govt and BJP's goons & they were lied about constantly by Godimedia.
670 of India's farmers died on the streets outside Delhi waiting for PM Modi to atleast meet them. Modi's response to the deaths was 'Did they die for me?'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Please don’t lie, Indian Muslims neither force Hindus to praise Allah nor do they lynch Hindus.

you caught me, I was lying maliciously. This was a waste of my energy. Deleting the comments anyways

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah we have daily ritual of beating Muslims. Not to mention this clothing we make them wear. It is required by PM modi's law to kick a Muslim whenever we see them.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow. Genocide is not a minimum criteria for fascism.

Fascism is characterized by an ideology that one group of people is superior to others. That's literally the ideology of the RSS. Hindu nationalism is fascism.

[–] hypna 3 points 10 months ago

It's hilarious how many different definitions of fascism I see on Lemmy on a given day

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Do we Indians have a server on Lemmy? just wondering.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Well at least he's not sending love letters to little Kim.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Unsure what they think letting India have only Russia to turn to would gain the US, but I promise it isn't realistic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, no. I am all against Modi and the BJP and most of their policies (except for the Foreign policy which has been a win acc to me)

But, no. You will not punish Indians because Modi is the leader of the country. And it's not in US interest to do this either. Some idiot at the Guardian might think this, but yeah, thankfully US foreign policy heads are not this dumb.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What punishment are you talking about? Did we read the same article?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Modi's followers are great at playing victims.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminder that India is still happily trading with Russia by buying their arms and buying their oil. In fact, India and Russia together found ways to circumvent the oil price cap and most Indians support Russia in Ukraine.

India is not an American ally. They're neutral and self-interested as they've always been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

India is also happily trading with China. It's imports from China increased after China built villages in India's Arunchal Pradesh, invaded India's Ladakh & beat 20 Indian soldiers to death. Prime Mninister Modi's response to that act invasion & aggression was to publicly say that China did not invade India.

Modi is not USA's friend. He is a dictator who is friendly with other dictators.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Biden opened his address to the summit by describing his motivation for holding it: “in the face of sustained and alarming challenges … democracy needs champions”.

More recently, Biden invited Benjamin Netanyahu, who is presiding over the destruction of Israel’s democracy by targeting its judicial system, for an official visit to the United States.

In 2005 Modi, then the chief minister of Gujarat, was denied entry to the US because of his role in ethnic violence that left over 1,000 people dead, the vast majority of them Muslims.

According to a recently declassified report from the British Foreign Office, the Hindu mobs’ “systematic campaign of violence has all the hallmarks of ethnic cleansing” and “Narendra Modi is directly responsible.”

The National Registry Act, already implemented in the Indian state of Assam, is a seemingly contradictory effort to expel illegal immigrants.

Jack Kirby, a US national security official, has made light of objections to Modi, declaring that “India is a vibrant democracy.

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