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I love civil disobedience. Go break shit.
Eh, it honestly depends on what the climate protestors are doing. If they're chaining themselves to people's cars, painting aeroplanes with toxic paint (so the company has to use toxic chemicals to remove it), or glue themselves to the autobahn, then they're honestly just making a mockery out of climate activism.
Moira who can't get to work because some cunt chained themselves to her wheel isn't going to become an ally when she gets scolded by her shitty boss for being late due to something she can't control. She needs to pay her landlords mortgage and put food on the table for her kids. Her old car might not be the most environmentally friendly but it might be the only option she has.
Picket parliament. Organise big costly strikes. Build gillotines and kidnap the CEOs and investors of big oil. Or you know, do something productive, like show the impact a small pond and some wildflowers can make in a green desert, or maybe work to restore wetlands.
Most people do care, but don't have the time or capacity to do shit about it. If you have the time and energy to fuck over Duncan on his way to his shitty second job so he can pay for his mortgage and his student loans, you have time to fuck over the people that have the power to help you actually make a change.
The street gluers must be paid crisis actors (just like the GOP projects) to make climate activism seem like a bunch of crazy people.
This low-key what I believe honestly.
The granddaughter of the oil tycoon J. Paul Getty has donated millions to support activist groups like Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil
I mean she claims to be taking action against climate change, but I don't know, smells fishy
Gotta get those sweet tax write-offs
I've spent enough time around wannabe revolutionaries to think most of those people are honest and really believe impeding some poor people from going to work will help make the masses adopt their cause.
It does help their belief system that they and most of the people around them were convinced by some asshole doing something similar.
They're are always some true believers. Flat Earth used to be trolls until the OGs got bored and moved on leaving only the believers behind.
The best astroturf is the one that starts growing on its own.
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Eh, lynching the big suits in the oil industry is fine by me.
Make them scared to leave their homes if they want to sacrifice everything for their own profits.
The way things are going, there will come a day when we regret we didn't become violent against them while there was still time to stop climate change.
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I'm sorry, how are they getting their hands on toxic paint? Are are they making it themselves? If it's the later then they have really just undone the entire of their "point".
Yeah but I can't direct my hate at an individual as easy when it's hot outside
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Greenies:Stop oil now!
Also greenies: *obstructs nuclear power for 60+ years. *
Please stop pretending we can run society on wind and solar.
We can run society on wind and solar, and it's looking more and more of a certainty that the price of the alternatives will bankrupt all of them.
You can. With nuclear as the baseline. Infinitely (not literally) more clean than fossil fuels and way, WAY more safe even including Chornobyl in the stats.
But we can
No, you literally can't. Energy demands are only going to increase. The energy output for the land required, for a nuclear plant, is far better overall compared to the area required for wind and solar to match it.
The area required for enough wind and solar is still small enough to not be an issue. That nuclear needs less space per amount of energy produced does not matter
Any space saved is space for untouched environment, which is more beneficial to the planet. You're using Chinese logic, which lead to mountains blanketed with solar panels. There will be consequences for such decisions down the road.
The space saved is so miniscule compared to theobvious benefits (way cheaper, quicker and easier construction than nuclear, no problem with long term storage of waste products) that it is an absolute no brainer. Also, it's not like windparks are on fields of asphalt.
Absolutely not. 100+ acres vs 3,000+ acres is anything but miniscule. I suggest you do a little research on the discussion you're attempting to take part in.
See, you're talking like 3000+ acres is a lot on the global scale, and it just isn't. You could literally cover a few fields that grow better in indirect light, produce more from your crops, and supply the global requirements for electricity. Seriously, just 5 square miles is over 3000 acres.
The only good argument against solar or wind is matching load against production, and that one is becoming less relevant all the time.
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If sticking heads in sand was an Olympic sport, climate change deniers would consistently take home 100 kg antimatter trophies.
Isn't the direct and immediate personal inconvenience the point? But, like, target the people who have decision-making power.
Just try to actually target the people with decision-making power to see what happens.
Those "we must have an impact!" protest never do that.
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