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  • On Sunday, French Prime Minister Élisabeth Borne told reporters that the new government strategy against smoking would include a ban on disposable vapes, saying that vaping acts as a gateway to smoking tobacco. Guardian (LR: 2 CP: 5)
  • Every year, smoking kills 75K in France, with Borne saying that vaping instills the "reflex" of smoking cigarettes. The advocacy group Alliance Against Tobacco says 13% of French teens between the ages of 13-16 have tried disposable e-cigarettes. The Telegraph
  • France's 2024 budget will include new measures against smoking, with the Prime Minister saying that a tax hike against tobacco is not planned. There's no timeline for the proposed ban, with the government saying it's set to be enacted before the end of 2023. Guardian (LR: 2 CP: 5)
  • The disposable vapes come in sweet and fruity flavors that critics say encourage teens to use the nicotine products. ABC News
  • In 2021, French Pres. Emmanuel Macron laid out an ambitious anti-smoking plan, which includes pledging more smoke-free areas and a goal to have all French 20-year-olds tobacco-free by 2030. RTE.ie
  • Bans or restrictions are in effect or being discussed in countries such as New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and Ireland. Aside from concerns that vaping may harm respiratory health, a British recycling group estimates that 1.3M disposable vapes are thrown out every week. The Telegraph

Pro-establishment narrative:

  • The overwhelming majority of health experts believe that vapes pose a threat to respiratory health and expose young people to nicotine addiction. Disposable vapes come in flavors clearly designed to target the young, whose low cost and discreet use make them even more appealing. We cannot lose the fight against smoking by letting a new generation become addicted to vaping.
    Le Monde.fr

Establishment-critical narrative:

  • These vaping bans will do more harm than good, as it deprives the public of a key harm reduction tool. For adults addicted to nicotine, vaping does provide a safer alternative than tobacco smoking. By forcing vaping underground, the consumers will suffer due to a lack of regulation and quality control while depriving them of choice. Like all heavy-handed bans, this move will backfire.
    NBC (LR: 2 CP: 4)
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[–] Auwx 1 points 1 year ago

The anti establishment narrative makes no sense : who will buy contraband vaping single use products? Especially for kids, which are the main demographic target of this products? It's not cigarettes, and as always it's basically cheaper to just buy a refuelable device, which by itself is really not that expensive... The ban makes perfect sense

[–] Crackhappy -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is fundamentally stupid.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disposable vapes are an environmental abomination. People can get a proper refillable vaping device anywhere.

[–] Crackhappy 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with you there, but getting rid of disposables entirely in some ways forces you to either keep smoking or buy a much more expensive vaping kit which may not work for you. I was not intending to say that getting rid of disposables was fundamentally stupid, but that by banning vaping you're somehow going to reduce the risk of people picking up smoking cigarettes. The opposite is true, vaping helps people stop smoking cigarettes. Is it healthy? Clearly not. But it's healthier than cigarettes, at least so far.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 4 points 1 year ago

You have to invest the equivalent of 3 packets of cigarettes for a basic kit.

It's really not an issue.

[–] drekly 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think cheap disposable vapes are more responsible for kids starting a nicotine habit than they are helping wean people off cigarettes