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[–] HM05_Me 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Black Vault submitted a FOIA request for the release of photos and videos related to Navy "near misses". The request was denied, but this essentially serves as evidence that the government has visual proof of UAP that it refuses to share with the public.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

People who do not read the linked info may not realize that the denial says "yeah, we have these but they were reviewed and are not available for FOIA" (paraphrasing). That's not the same as "what pictures?", like you said. Pretty wild.

[–] Animoscity 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If this happened to be a weapon from another country, yeah there’s no way they are releasing it. Lots of speculation with this uap stuff. People just hoping and grasping at straws

[–] SignullGone 5 points 10 months ago

While that does make sense, we've had reports describing these same types of objects going back to the 40's. I find it hard to believe that any country possessed this technology back then.

Additionally, the DoD had no issue showing us the Russian jet harassing an MQ-9 with stunning clarity. Not to mention, readouts and other details could be photoshopped out, leaving just the image against the background.

The government is to blame in regards to fueling the speculation.

[–] HM05_Me 2 points 10 months ago

If they believed this was a weapon from another country it wouldn't be a UAP and wouldn't be classified as such. I don't actively suggest that cases like this are alien or something fantastic, but they are a subject that the public is kept in the dark on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I guess if zogg shows up, we’ll know.

[–] GONADS125 -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but if you think believing in UAP is grasping at straws, you are most likely uninformed and basing that overly-confident belief on preconceived internalized beliefs; not factual up-to-date information.

If you aren't afraid to challenge your beliefs, I urge you to read my post in which I have compiled a tremendous amount of valid information on the subject.

Edit: I would love it if the people downvoting would actually have a discussion. It's easy to blindly reject information. What about that information makes it invalid to you? Did you even read anything?

People act like this subject is as erroneous as anti-vaxxer nonsense, and they won't acknowledge the valid information and scientific interest in the subject.

Our government has admitted UAP are real. I have that in my linked post. There's also valid scientific organizations devoted to studying UAP as a very real phenomenon. Also linked in that post. There is the COMETA report and France's government-based scientific UAP organization that has gone public with their information. That's also in my post.

To the people who discount this as being crackpot or a conspiracy theory, how do you account for the admissions of multiple nations' governments that UAP do exist, legitimate mainstream scientific inquiry, and all the declassified documents and footage?

If you're going to discount this as invalid information, then you must believe there is a conspiracy for this unilateral consistency from multiple nations. You must believe you know better than leading scientists. You must think all of our politicians on both sides are crackpots, as I have clearly presented the overwhelming bipartisan support and concern on the topic of UAP.

There does exist valid information that UAP exist, but some people would rather downvote and keep engaging in confirmation-bias because it's easier not to challenge our beliefs.

[–] count_dongulus 7 points 10 months ago

It's not released for the same reason the Navy footage tracking a UAP off California didn't get released for a long time. In that case, capabilities of a specific piece of Navy fighter jet equipment to track fast moving aerial targets was exposed. This FOIA denial sounds exactly the same: some pilots encountered UAP, and we're able to gather pictures or tracked electromagnetic information about it, and the Navy doesn't want adversaries to know what current tracking systems can do.

[–] Sanctus 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is kind of starting to feel awkward with all the press and nothing solid. Like it really is getting tiring.

[–] HM05_Me 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it doesn’t help that Congress went on break and slowed the momentum. Hopefully things pick back up after Congress returns. If the NDAA bill passes with the UAP amendments then we should be in for a lot more information to come out.