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First they came for /r/pics ... now Reddit are coming for the individual personal subreddits (lemmy.pt)
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From Mastodon https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/110588848407336816

First they came for /r/pics ... now Reddit are coming for the individual personal subreddits

Quite some years ago I'd realised that amongst the problems with using Reddit as a personal blogging space (my avatar here is a relic of that, if you'd not put the two together) was that I do not in fact have any permanent claim to that space.

Reddit's previous policies of moderator re-assignment bothered me.  The policies apparently instituted September 2022 and being rolled out aggressively in recent days ... have not weakened my concerns.

And, checking in now, I find a day-old modmail to /r/dredmorbius, a subreddit which only ever was my own personal posts with comments from a few friends, and about 1,000 subscribers ... has received a notice to reclaim by /u/Modcodeofconduct, screenshot attached here.

I have not abandoned the sub.  I had closed it in protest of Reddit's continued failings and war against its volunteer moderators and general community.

And I will not go quietly.

#Reddit #FuckReddit #ModCodeOfConduct #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout

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[–] SacredHeartAttack 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I signed on here at Lemmy.world on the eve of the blackout. I haven't been using Reddit since and I couldn't be happier about it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will say, that while I like Lemmy (despite its bugs and all that), it severely lacks stupid GIFs and videos, from interestingasfuck, damnthatsinteresting, PublicFreakout, aww, etc.

Maybe that'll come, but I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i actually find the lack of moving stuff refreshing. All the platforms are moving to short addictive video. Reddit wasn't like this in the beginning, either.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well, the great thing about the fediverse is you can actually block out things you don't like, permanently, unlike on Reddit.

I think more content the better, generally speaking. Of course there's communities I've already blocked from my feed even with the little available currently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Sure, that stuff is missing, but I really loved going to Reddit to read things, funnily enough.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Be the change you wish to see

[–] Limeey 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"your content is ours, we will do with it as we please, kindly fuck yourself"

I seriously cannot believe what a heavy hand reddit is taking. That IPO threat must be hurting A LOT of wallets right now. This is the flailing desperation of a dying animal, imo. Idk if reddit will actually "die" but I can't see any healthy and vibrant community existing after this. I just hope they don't target Lemmy instances with under-handed "subterfuge"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cannot exclude the possibility that the recent increase in bot accounts on some instances is somewhat linked to such already engaged subterfuges. I mean, the time frame is way too coincidental.

[–] Limeey 2 points 1 year ago

Meh, I haven't seen any spam accounts, no links to malicious sites or uploads of malware pretending to be innocuous. Content bots are inevitable, but creating content doesn't seem like a good way to "extinguish" competition...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Idk if reddit will actually "die"

I think it depends on us users. If we can make a community work here in the federated space well enough to draw users then reddit might really go away.

But if they manage to kill off 3rd party devs, APIs and etc quickly before these alternatives are baked enough to work for their users and these existing federated tools aren't good enough -- then they'll just maintain via the network effect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the flailing desperation of a dying animal

I guarantee they did the math and the site will continue. Sure, a small percentage will leave. But they know from user metrics the vast majority of users will remain. They can find mods who will fall in line.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

@veridicus

The site will continue, but the content will never be the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guarantee they don't know how to do that math. There's no way they've factored in the human element. Humans are just too unpredictable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ordinarily I would disagree, assuming that they must be privvy to data that no one else is and are making carefully calculated decisions.

But with the way that Reddit leadership just continued to make misstep after misstep throughout this whole debacle, when all they had to do was just say/do nothing and wait for everything to blow over, I can only assume their corporate strategy right now is 100% improvised and not calculated.

Almost all subreddits signed up for just a 2-day protests and were going to return to normal after that. It was only because of how Reddit/spez acted in the wake of all this that they're experiencing the resistance they are now.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This happened to my ~770 people subreddit r/ntfy too. They really lost their marbles, didn't they? I turned it back to "Public" out of fear that they'll delete my Reddit account. I fear even "Restricted" won't stop them. So instead, I'll manually delete or lock new posts and direct them to the Lemmy instance. I may assign another dummy mod account too and unassign myself. Maybe that'll give me a way to close the sub in the future.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think many steps ahead, nice. Others should consider this as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ha. I guess thinking ahead is my trade :-) I'm a Principal Engineer, and much of my job is to think about how a software architecture will look in a few months or a year from now. I often say "It's very lonely living in the future all the time", because people usually think about their current project and current task, not what's ahead of them that far out.

Sorry, I ramble. :-)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Software tester here. My wife will sometimes refer to me as "unlikely scenario guy". And not necessarily because of my career choice. :-D

[–] Regna 8 points 1 year ago

Manually deleting posts leads to them reinstating them (I think they set it up botstyle to reinstate posts from subs where mods have been warned). Editing your posts to directing to Lemmy instances leads you to being given a warning, your post being reinstated from earlier versions and then you're kicked off of your own sub and get a shadow ban alternatively 7 day lockout.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Off-topic, but I love ntfy! It's super easy to use to send notifications from a script or program anywhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the kind words. Feel free to recommend it to your friends or write a blog post about it, hehe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not going to delete my reddit account, but I don't mind if they do it themselves either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the fediverse home for ntfy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Never mind... I clicked on the link :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not subscribed but I use ntfy, and WTF that's the dev sub, he should do whatever he wants

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My personal subs that have been private for ages recieved messages saying they will inform me of "further steps" if I refuse to open them up.

One of them is /r/[myRedditUsername] that I use as a kind of scratch pad that I can access anywhere (I've since self hosted a wiki) that they are demanding I open up. Like seriously, no one would ever be interested in whatever is there.

They can get fucked. I deleted all of the posts and comments on all of my accounts and requested GDPR requests on all of them. reddit can get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you'd think with the recent news they'd be more cautious about sinking to such depths

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expect a sudden, violent, implosion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I was thinking a slow, wheezing, gasping, flailing scramble as they try to figure out how to deal with the deluge of bots previously handled by mods.

Like watching an iceberg slowly turn over, while people climbing on the outside try to keep from being pushed underwater.

[–] Azamandriel 2 points 1 year ago

I see what you did there.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

As shit as it is, they probably just made a tool to mass send this notice to any sub privated within the last X days. I doubt they'll follow up with action on a tiny sub.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The hubris. It's too much. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm willing to bet that they don't actually know when a sub went private, just whether or not it currently is. I also would not be surprised if the emails are automated but going out in batches to spread the workload dealing with replies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

2000 employees but none of them thought to go dig up last month's backup and run a diff on the current state. Or alternately they don't have usable backups from last month.

I can believe it, at this point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Funny thing is as a mod you can ban and mute that u/Modcodeofconduct account lol!! They wouldnt allow me to respond to that message so I banned and muted it for the max amount of time (30 days). Taste some of your own medicine reddit!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

For some time I also used reddit as a personal blog and to save stuff to watch years later, then I read about the limit of 1k results per listing.
This means any api call to retrieve the posts/comments of any kind of sorting is limited to the first 1k objects.
So you can only get the latest 1k new posts, the 1k hot posts, the 1k top post of any time frame, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Spez demands control and he will get it. Unfortunate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In a way, I’m glad reddit is reacting like this. Being flexible and compromising would have been better, but if they’re determined to be assholes, I’m glad they’re being assertive and unambiguous about it.

Big props to the mods who are unintentionally encouraging them to destroy themselves!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone else suddenly getting Reddit followers? I've yet to purge my account, and my account, which has no real activity, is suddenly getting an influx of followers. wth is going on over there? lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spambots or girls trying to sell their onlyfans

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or spambots trying to sell their onlyfans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sexy bots near you want to satisfy you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, the weird part is? I got two followers, and one of them was a guy I messaged earlier when asking if he'd post his content elsewhere. (I mentioned lemmy as an option) Well, the profile was different - instead of being "XXX YYY", the one that followed me was "Alternate YYY", so I assumed it was an alt. He didn't message me back on the old nor this account, and when I tried to visit it said "this account name doesn't exist". He keeps posting and is probably neutral about this whole thing, but it's just, odd why he'd use an alt right then and then delete it or have it banned (maybe he promoted lemmy or protested on it, idk, I brought up lemmy in a post title on a smaller sub but it got banned by "the mods of r/sub". My account is fine tho)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Weeeeiiiiird, I'd be curious what happened with his accout

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It'd be hilarious to see them try to hand your own personal page to a random other person to moderate. It makes no sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd be interested to see what their "next steps" will be in this case.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought subreddits with >1m subs already are controlled by some dummies from the reddit team