Cyberpunk 2077

either that we won’t see cyberpunk 2 at least until year 2033, or it’s going to be an even bigger mess at launch

Why not both

I have (small) hopes it might be better: cp2077 had the unfortunate combo of:

1. Using an engine which was il suited for a first person shooter.

2. The engine was proprietary. So harder to onboard new employees, and worse than open source/existing engines.

3. Released on the verge of the transition to the next console generation. I get it from a marketing perspective why they wanted to support ps4 etc, (still couldn't find a ps5 at launch), but man was it a bad idea from a software perspective. I think this should be the main lesson: don't trust cdpr on anything related to older hardware

I'm sure dumping a new team to work on an engine they havent worked with before without giving them enough time will go fine, it's not like we have any recent examples saying otherwise.

...oh yeah, Mass Effect: Andromeda.

It'll be called Cyberpunk 2077 because of the release date.

They are trying to argue that this is an expansion, not DLC:

Phantom Liberty is an expansion, not a DLC. You can find the list of free DLCs here: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/dlc (they were included in patches).

https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-arrives-on-september-26th.11116618/page-6#post-13611757

Absolute bullshit. Expansions are DLC.

This is an expansion, dlc is small add-ons. Same as the Witcher. They added loads of stuff for free, but then the two big expansion's were paid for.

I actually don't, or if I do wasn't that just for small post launch additions and not fully fledged expansions? Same way you got those alternate costumes in witcher 3 for free but still had to buy hearts of stone,for example.