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NHS waiting lists: estimated 340,000 died awaiting treatment in 2022 (www.thetimes.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The number dying on waiting lists jumped 15 per cent at the start of the pandemic in 2020, and carried on rising in 2021 and last year.

How many with covid?

The figures do not specify how people died, or whether the death was related to the care they were expecting from the NHS. The data also does not contain ages or medical conditions.

So, are more people dying on waitlists because there are just more people on waitlists?

Any other country comparisons? I know other European countries like Germany have way more emergency beds than the UK and the UK govt spends one of the lowest amounts on healthcare as a % of GDP in the G7

Either way, it's going to take a fuck ton of money to get back to where the NHS was pre Cameron and all the other twats

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I honestly don’t understand how this metric is useful.

It seems to just be a surrogate for ‘how many people who died knew they were at risk.’

If we have a virus with no symptoms and people just immediately drop dead, this metric would plummet since people who died weren’t expecting it.

If we all got cancer tomorrow from something released in the atmosphere, this metric would skyrocket due to us all seeking care… even if the cancer took a decade to actually kill anyone.

Covid seems more like the second case than the first… so of course the number went up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TBF I think the rot set in long before Cameron. They just accelerated it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Quite a roller coaster ride

[–] ansiz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't Thatcher say that Cameron was her priest achievement? I'm sure she had something to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No she said Tony Blair and new labour where her greatest achievement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

So from the stats in the article, over 30% of all deaths were people on a waiting list