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I think a little of it would go a long way for me, personally, but I'm curious about others experiences.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

While the original Burners tended to be at least relatively environmentally considerate, the current iterations are extravaganzas of wasteful use of precious resources as well as trashing a pristine landscape. Whatever ethos of involved group cleanup that may have ever existed certainly seems to no longer.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I went β€˜01, β€˜03, β€˜04.

The last year I went was the first time it seemed like LA people and startup CEOs were starting to show up in numbers, which was changing the vibe.

Also, there started to be a lot more photos and videos posted online. I wasn’t trying to have my employees find video of me four days into smoking crystal and candy-flipping, dancing at a rave camp.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Forgive my naitivety but what's candy flipping?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

LSD & E/molly at same time

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

There was also hippie-flipping: mushrooms and E.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was chatting to a mate of mine about this recently. She said that it used to be awesome, but now it is heavily commercialised and results in trash being left everywhere. It's lost the spirit of what it used to be.

[–] Kbobabob 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand the appeal. There are far cheaper, easier, safer ways to party.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Never been, but I have to assume it's like saying, "we don't need to get takeout, we have perfectly good leftovers in the fridge."

People like a new experience, they like a destination, it seems like the point is to be out of your comfort zone with a bunch of others who are doing the same, not "safe and easy". The specific location is probably not important, but the remoteness of it would obviously contribute to the novelty of the experience.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I would've gone like 20 or even 10 years ago. Now it seems like a social media party.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

There are smaller regional events that have the same original spirit without many of the issues the original event is facing that might be a good introduction for you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't been yet personally, but I have a lot of friends who go every year. Some of the things that they love about going are the big cultures around consent, the random awesome and unique things that you find everywhere, spending time with friends, a lack of money economy, being your completely human self w/o any judgement, and basically stepping into a world that's separate from the rest of society. You'll find a lot of these things at local burns as well. If you are getting curious, I would really encourage the latter. Regional or local burns are like mini burning men with a similar vibe, but a lot more conscientious and tight-knit. The best way to get into one is to find a facebook group for the one closest to you. Sometimes they'll meet up outside the events, and you can go to ask questions and to coordinate. Since there's a lack of money economy, everything is done either with trades or with shared responsibility. There's something at burning man called "radical responsibility" where each person is responsible for their own wellness and contributions. So you can't go expecting there to be vendors or other people with food or water or what have you -- it's important to figure those things out ahead of time so that way you're not a burden on others (which allows you to be a contributing member of the community and show up fully). Like I said I haven't actually been, so I don't know the full details, but that's most of what I do know! Most people I've met that go are some of the most interesting people I know and really know how to party and what life's about for themselves, so I recommend finding out more :)

[–] wilberfan 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the lengthy reply.

Not sure what the phrase "...the big cultures around consent..." means. Can you elaborate?

[–] wilberfan 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)