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[–] ProfessorZhu 8 points 1 year ago

If the arugement is a fear of "replacing artists" why is it a problem to use AI as a tool?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AI art is like polyfilla, good for filling gaps, but you can't make an entire house out of nothing but polyfilla.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have used nothing but AI art in many of the adventures I've run for my players and it's working great. Perhaps you're using AI art generators in too superficial a manner, the best generations require a fair bit of attention to detail.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've used gummy bears as tokens and maps thrown together in 30 seconds with Sharpie on wrapping paper and it works fine too. Players generally are pretty happy with whatever you throw at them.

I'd still expect better than that from a product that a major company is expecting you to trade money for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We're talking something along the lines of a published book, rather than that, where it's more acceptable in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wasn't wizards of the Coast recently in a bunch of hot water for not paying their artists? And now they're trying to say that they won't use AI, but they won't pay the human beings that actually do the work for them either so what is the winning move at this point?

[–] dethb0y 1 points 1 year ago
  1. that site is horribly laid out, it breaks the entire story up with spam for it's other stories that aren't even related? Terrible.

  2. Honestly i could care less if official D&D products used AI art, considering how little the art in the books matters. I'd honestly prefer if they were more like some other RPG's books and had less art and more text.

  3. I will say this: i've been on a binge of reading old dragon and dungeon magazine issues, and even AI art is better than the art that people endured for much of the 1980's and early 1990's.

[–] atrielienz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the context. There has always been the stereotype of the starving artist which is quite prolific in our society. As a result it is already thought that as an artist you are not marketable or that you are not valuable enough to pay. As a result a lot of companies coughcouthwotccoughcough are already in hot water for refusing to pay artists. And now they're using tools based on those artists actual work to generate art in the style of those artists for profit and the artists still won't be getting paid for their work? Doesn't seem fair. I don't want to see it with writing or publishing of any kind. I don't want to see AI generated art at the cost of the people who make real art. And further I don't want people to use AI that's been trained on the hard work of others (without recompense to those people who's work the AI is being trained on) without their consent. That's what's happening.

What WOTC for caught out on was an artist using the generative AI system to enhance artwork they created. I don't necessarily see a problem with that, except when you consider the other artwork the AI has been trained on.