this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2023
15 points (100.0% liked)

Trees

6622 readers
70 users here now

A community centered around cannabis.

In the spirit of making Trees a welcoming and uplifting place for everyone, please follow our Commandments.

  1. Be Cool.
  2. I'm not kidding. Be nice to each other.
  3. Avoid low-effort posts

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I'm obviously joking in the title, but I'm serious with the question. Besides the fact that I as an adult should be able to consume as much as I want at any given time (I'm only hurting myself, if at all), I was wondering what you guys think about that amount.

Personally, I feel that for me it would be more than enough, but then again I don't see how they came to that number. What are your thoughts?

top 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's kind of odd to place a limit on consumption, I agree that as an adult it should be up to you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the 50g/month limit only applies to purchases from cannabis social clubs. Growing your own or "buying" from a friend would still be legal ways to get over the 50g limit. I agree that there shouldn't be a limit though. Hopefully it will be increased in the future

[–] theonewhoknocks 3 points 1 year ago

When it comes to growing, the planned limit is the number of plants, if I remember correctly. (I believe it's supposed to be three plants max.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly 50g sound waaaaay to much for me personally. 5g for a month is plenty and i almost use it every evening.

[–] Moon_500 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

50g would be more than enough for me, but I know people who need it for medicinal purposes, so yeah, ideally there shouldn't be a limit. Like, what do you do when you run out of medicine?

[–] theonewhoknocks 2 points 1 year ago

Medicinal use is a very good point. I feel that for these people, there should obviously be an exception. I mean, is there a limit for other drugs (such as Aspirin)? I don't think so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's more than I've consumed since it became legal in Canada in 2018. If you go through 50g in a month I'd consider it heavy substance abuse and you should probably seek professional help.
I assume the threshold exists to prevent people from reselling.

[–] bizzle 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm a medical patient and smoke more than 50g in a month, that's not even two ounces.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, medical users wouldn't be affected by the 50g limit. I guess becoming a patient will get easier after the decriminalisation/legalization.

[–] bizzle 3 points 1 year ago

That's true but I was replying to a guy saying I was an unrepentant addict for smoking so much

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And I assume you have to contend with unpleasant side-effects, like trouble concentrating or sleeping?

[–] bizzle 3 points 1 year ago

Much to the contrary, it helps me concentrate and it REALLY helps me sleep! The only unpleasant side effect is all the money I have to spend on weed 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Increasing tolerance is a thing. 50g isn't that much, if you make your own concentrates or host some get togethers at your house and smoke your friends out. I personally don't consume anywhere that much, but I don't think that we should patronize adults like that. There isn't a limit for buying alcohol or tobacco either. It only pushes heavy users towards the grey/black market in the end.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm well aware that increasing tolerance is an issue. Managing that is part of responsible consumption. And mature adults likely won't need this kind of hand-holding. But not everyone is.
And I'd argue that introducing limits to tobacco and alcohol consumption would do well for reducing their casualties.
Basically anyone regularly reaching those threshold should be incentivised to accept professional help, where they're helped to get a hold of their consumption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand where you are coming from but I don't think monthly limitations for e.g. alcohol will reduce casualties. It could even achieve the opposite. 50 bottles of beer/month would suffice for most of the population, but would also push heavier drinkers towards an unregulated black market with all of the negative side effects. Just think of methanol poisoning via homemade moonshine.

Back to cannabis: Black market dealers won't offer you help to reduce your consumption or make you reflect about your usage. Dispensaries or CSCs on the other hand could fulfill this role. And lastly, there are peope who function just fine and live a "normal" life while smoking >2g of weed a day. It feels unjust to me to still criminalize these people, as they potentially will only harm themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I strongly doubt that capping distribution would feed the black market if paired with appropriate measures. I'm thinking of something like the Netherlands' addiction care program.
Of course there are people who go through a bottle of Wodka in a day or two and are still somewhat functional. That doesn't mean it's healthy or that it should be encouraged or facilitated by the state. But those people know how their addiction impacts their lives. And if they were offered free, non-judgemental help to kick the habit, I think most would accept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There already is free, non-judgemental help available for alcoholics here in Germany. Yet, we still have a lot of alcoholics in our society. If you have an issue with substance abuse, it won't help you, if you will be prosecuted for it. Addicts will allways find (potentially dangerous) ways to get their drug of choice.

I agree though, that there should be a lot more of these addiction care programs. There also should be a lot more (truthful) awareness campaigns and the glorification of alcohol (or any other substance) through advertising shouldn't exist.

On the other hand, I don't think there should be any law about what I, as an adult, can do to my own body, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else.

[–] slash_nick 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn lol I just did the math and that would be 1.75 oz! Not an insane amount but definitely a lot (for me) in a single month.

I think all of these “limits” are inherently arbitrary. I would imagine their goal is to roughly separate consumers from sellers? Like if you’re buying more than 50g a month it’s more likely that you’re not consuming it yourself and selling it to others? Just a guess!

[–] theonewhoknocks 2 points 1 year ago

For medicinal users (I've talked to a few), 50g is not enough, but "a good start". FYI, for younger people (was it 18-25 years? not sure) the monthly amount is half of it (25g).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you burn yours 50g would be one or two 1g joints a day. That might meet your needs, but there's an incentive to consume it smoke-free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seems reasonable, but why do they have to put a max. on the amount you are using/buying? Do they have a explanation for that?

In the Netherlands you can buy 5 grams per day per person.

Also when you carry more than 5 grams on you, you are probably a dealer. Says the Dutch law. They have to draw the line somewhere, so I get that.

load more comments
view more: next ›