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UPDATED: There are now multiple iOS / Android apps in development for kbin & lemmy! (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The amount of apps being developed for iOS / Android is getting really crazy now and new apps keep popping up every day. Updated list below:

Artemis (iOS, Android, kbin, lemmy): link
Kbam (iOS, kbin, lemmy): link
Memmy (iOS, lemmy): link
Mlem (iOS, lemmy): link
Morpha (iOS, lemmy): link
Thunder (iOS, Android, lemmy): link
Beyond (iOS, Android, kbin, lemmy): link
Jerboa (Android, lemmy): link
Slide (Android, lemmy): link
Sync (Android, lemmy): link
Connect (Android, lemmy): link
Summit (Android, lemmy): link
Lemon (iOS, lemmy): link
Liftoff (iOS, Android, lemmy): link
Boost (Android, lemmy): link
Bean (iOS, Android, lemmy): link
WefWef (Web App, lemmy): link

Most apps on the list are lemmy apps, meaning they don't work with kbin. Artemis is specifically designed to work with kbin, not sure if or when any of the other ones will go in that direction or become interoperable as there are some challenges with the kbin API at the moment. Having said that, a new API is in the works (https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/357) so things should get better with time.

Some of the apps are in a very early stage of development so it may happen that they adjust OS availability and platform support.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Not much love for Kbin! </3

But I get it, without an official API, it's a lot of work to get one going. I just refuse to use Lemmy, so I'm committed on getting a Kbin app ASAP. We're just about to have alpha.1 build ready and it's pretty darn usable.

Plugging our magazine here:
https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp

EDIT: me not going w Lemmy was due to devs. I still think it’s a viable platform for the fediverse, especially with all the instances out there besides theirs (and being open source). Kbin being completely separated just felt like the right choice for me when picking between the two.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I much prefer kbin to lemmy so I really appreciate you putting in the effort! I put myself on the alpha list and I look forward to it. :)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your service kind citizen!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Gotta say, I'm really excited for the work you're doing on Artemis. Kbin's mobile site is really good especially considering how young it is, but I miss the smoothness of a real app. Thank you for jumping in on it so quickly and enthusiastically!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just communicate with the kbin developers a lot, ernest did disable the api for now because he might change it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, following along the active PR for the site’s API closely :)

Rn using homegrown one based on their DTOs. Using a scrapper. Just so we can run a small scale private beta. Has help us get a lot of the core functionality in place. Currently the app is looking pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yea, use anything to get started.
But with what you are doing it's fine to contact the dev team/mr dev directly; they'll love it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you refuse to use Lemmy?

[+] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankies? Not familiar with that one.

I signed up for kbin because it was easier to understand. Lemmy looked neat but figuring out which instance to join was hard. As for the developers supporting China… well, Lemmy is open source and the whole point is to make something where you don’t have to agree with the people running it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy looked neat but figuring out which instance to join was hard

how about any lol, any major instance is ok

and yeah lemmy is open source, there's a lemmy instance for every point on the political spectrum, devs being commies makes no difference for the end result which is a very diverse (fe)diverse

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do they have right to be commies? Sure.

Do I have right not to use their project because of that? You betcha! Especially since there is good (if not better) alternative (kbin)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are alleged members of the communist party who are mods at lemmy.ml, or some kind of Chinese state apologists. Those who seek freedom of speech should be forewarned of this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen that "problem" a lot, but they give away the source code for free as proper communists should do, and then it's out of their hands. Just don't go to lemmygrad.ml.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Microsoft also makes a lot of open source software but there's people that want to stay the fuck away from it.

As for me, I just prefer the Kbin layout.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Aww yes, looking forward to it! Will go sign up for testing if you're accepting.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By the way, upon full release Artemis will be functional for both Lemmy and kbin, AND be available on both iOS and Android.

Alpha testing should be starting in the next day or two.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lol 9 for lemmy, 1 for Kbin. At least I won’t have to worry about crippling indecisiveness.

Still, excited for the outlook of the fediverse right now.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Kbin currently has no functional API, which makes it much harder to develop a kbin app.

Edit: Also I'm pretty sure that one is iOS only so I can't use it 😭

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@gk99 There is work ongoing: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/357

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Artemis will only be iOS-exclusive for only the initial Limited Alpha. Beta onwards, it will be for both iOS and Android.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Artemis will be available for both IOS and Android!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there isn't one already, we should pin this post and keep it updated with all the apps that are coming out.
Might need @ernest to do it since he's mod.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sync is being developed as well
[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@ChrV Thanks, added!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

you can add one more to the list for Kbin:
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110587136358486606
@dansup

He already created https://pixelfed.org/ (Instagramm like interface for the fedivers) and https://fedidb.org/ (tracking of the fedivers growth)

Very talented and hard working! Very happy to ses that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Wtf it's too many lol I can't choose

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also Slide

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@demvoter Added thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Anybody get around to getting all of these into a nice, updated awesome-table on Github? Yanno to cleanly display which ones are lemmy / kbin, iOS / Android, FOSS, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Any KBin app would have to pretty special, the mobile page is pretty great as it stands. It's got a few small bugs but none of them are showstoppers.

[–] idunnololz 4 points 1 year ago

Summit is also in development. It is a lemmy only reader (for now) for Android and it is in open beta. https://lemmy.world/c/summit

[–] aeharding 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget wefwef - an apollo-like progressive webapp (for iOS, android later) under active development I'm working on ^_^

Also works great on tablets and desktop! And it's hackable, self-hostable and open source, because it's a progressive webapp.

https://wefwef.app

https://github.com/aeharding/wefwef

https://lemmy.world/c/wefwef

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like your app's simple and beautiful design. Some suggestions:

Your "install app" page says Safari even though I'm using Firefox on the desktop. Perhaps you can change the instructions based on browser detection
Images are always displayed in full height. Will you consider setting a maximum height for images so tall images won't affect browsing the posts?
The login page says "Due to CORS, all requests to will be proxied through wefwef.app". Can you elaborate and give reassurance that privacy would be respected by your app? Perhaps a privacy policy under the settings page would help.
The profile page has a very short list of instances. Is there a logic on how those instances are selected? I support that you are selective about what instances are included. I hope to see the instance managed by weirdos to be excluded.

[–] aeharding 4 points 1 year ago

Hi! These are great questions 🥰

Yes, there are absolutely plans to make install app logic smarter!
Currently, image render in the feed similar to apollo. However... are you viewing on mobile or desktop? Is there a particular post that's problematic? I might add more logic around this, but for mobile in portrait, it should be intended. Note that in the post page, there is a height limitation to 50% viewport. Oh, and a compact feed view is planned!
Yeah, I need to write a privacy policy. I'll get this done today or tomorrow.
The short instance list is just for an MVP. I definitely plan on expanding it!

You can also choose any instance by adjusting the URL on the posts page. For example, (assuming you're logged out) you can view midwest.social with the following link: https://wefwef.app/posts/midwest.social/all. However, you make a good point about being selective - I might create a blacklist, as I don't want wefwef to be used by hate groups.

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[–] LazaroFilm 4 points 1 year ago

Could you update the list with the release status of each app? Some apps are available via FlightTest, some are closed Betas, some need AltStore sole loading, some are only announcements with screenshots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hope RIF, Apollo, Infinity... and all the other wonderful alts have been reached out to. They are a big reason for the migration.

Ed:sp

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah RIF is my app. If I get one that works like that for Lemmy that would be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Memmy dev here. I am waiting to see what happens with this new API. As long as that is ready, I’ll be ready. I’m working on wrapping the Lemmy API client a bit differently so I can easily just plug in the KBin API whenever that time comes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Awesome I am gonna try Artemis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Could you add what OS and which service each app is going to be for? That way, people better more what to keep an eye on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Limbo Dev and the Lemmynade Dev joined forces and both their clients will be merged to Liftoff. Maybe the list above could be adjusted to reflect that.

Sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/520520
https://lemmy.world/post/520809
https://bigfoot.ninja/post/6474

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In table format for your (desktop) viewing pleasure:

FOSS	Name	Platform	OS	Stage	Source Code	Info
YES	Memmy	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Android Release (Pending Play Store Approval)	Github	[email protected]
YES	Morpha	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Under Development	Gitlab	[email protected]
YES	Thunder	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Alpha Release	Github	[email protected]
YES	Mlem	Lemmy	iOS	Submitted for App Store Review (July 1)	Github	[email protected]
YES	Jerboa	Lemmy	Android	Released	Github	[email protected]
YES	Artemis	Kbin, Lemmy	Android, iOS	Private Beta (Starts End of June)	Unreleased	[email protected]
YES	Limbo	Lemmy	iOS	TestFlight Beta	Unreleased	[email protected]
YES	Beyond	Lemmy	Android, iOS	Under Development	Unreleased	original Beehaw post
NO	Sync	Lemmy	Android	Research	N/A	[email protected]
YES	Slide	Lemmy	Android	Under Development (More information coming)	N/A	original Lemmy post
YES	Lemmynade	Lemmy	Android	Under Development	N/A	original Lemmy post
NO	Connect	Lemmy	Android	Released	N/A	lemmy community
NO	Summit	Lemmy	Android	Open Beta	N/A	lemmy.world
YES	Unnamed	Kbin	Android, iOS	Research	N/A	kbin post
TBD	Lemon	Lemmy	iOS	Development, Beta in Early July	N/A	lemm.ee
YES	WefWef	Kbin	Web App	Released	Github	lemmy.world

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm on Jebora it's completely illegible lol

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here is another kbin app to add, from the developer of pixelfed:
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110587136358486606

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Very nice to see

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of this is so exciting to see!

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