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Hello, I am looking for the optimum phone to install Ubuntutouch on, and I particularly want optimum battery life and, of course, a great camera. Which phone would you recommend I am looking at Xiaomi Poco x3 or M3 otherwise they are big for me. I currently have a Pixel 6 and Grapheneos but I would like a Linux UT in the past I also had Xperia 10 and Sailfish os. What would you recommend for everyday use with a good camera?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Ubuntu touch still active?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very much so. Canonical stopped developing it a long time ago, but it's a community project now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got curious and looked up the supported devices, I've got an old xiaomi redmi note 8 lying around and they support the note 7, note 7 pro, the note 8 pro and the note 9 lol

Oh well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanx for info.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Keep in mind that none of these phones support the mainline kernel.

There are only 3 phones that supports mainline kernel: PinePhone, PinePhone Pro and Librem 5.

All other phones use Halium. In short, because there are no drivers, your phone will use Android container to talk to hardware.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The entire idea of Ubuntu Touch device support, was to be based on Halium. It's a bit different than regular mobile Linux (outside of Droidian, of course), where mainline is a requirement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, I just wanted to mention it. I personally learned about this not too long ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanx for info and answer about Halium.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Shatur @markkdark what about OnePlus 6? IIRC there are just few missing bits in camera support, but otherwise it is mainline kernel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I probably phrased it wrong. There only 3 devices that can run mainline kernel and have fully functioning hardware. Yes, you can run mainline Linux on OnePlus 6 without camera and USB-OTG. I also think that there are some other minor issues. But on UBT camera in OnePlus 6 will work through Halium: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/enchilada

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I own OP6, on Ubuntu Touch it has an annoying bug with shutdown (see my other reply here).
On mobile Linux, though, it's quite close: camera is missing, GPS is a bit finicky about SIM card you use, I did not seriously test battery life yet. I plan to give it a proper try to daily drive it soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for your answer, I know and pine phone pro is a on my priority list, but it's still buggy with UBT.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True. PPP will be functional on other mobile Linux distributions that target mainline Linux. Like PostmarketOS or Mobian.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also keep in mind that Ubuntu Touch doesn't support VoLTE at this time which is a problem if you live in the US where it's required for basic voice support.

Last I saw they were hoping to have it fixed by the end of the year but am unsure of the current progress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just look at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

I have a Pixel 3a and it's a really great port.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm looking at getting this phone to use with UT. Are there any bugs/limitations that I should know about? And do you have a sense of how long it will be supported for? Thanks :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Pixel 3a? As stated on https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ it's the best port out there (and my previous experience with a OG Volla/GS 290 confirms this). Now is Ubuntu Touch perfect? No, and everything depends on your use-case (and because of no VoLTE support, the region you are in also matters). You can also try Droidian (https://droidian.org/) with a Pixel 3a, so given likely availability of a working, used device for less than USD/EUR 100 you can't go wrong with it, IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I got a 3a and put UT on it but couldn't make mobile data work on a UK sim. It was the same for Droidian unfortunately. Droidian looked especially cool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I waiting for use UT on my Pixel 6, this will be perfect, for use on newer phones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It won't be much of help, but I have a few devices:

  • Xperia X which so far works well, except that it feels like the phone's internals are a bit too slow for today's standards, so even if I will use it for the time being, if I were yo,u I would pick something more powerful.
  • OnePlus 6 which would be very cool (especially that it's one of the best phones for regular 'mobile Linux' so far), if not for shutdown being bugged, which results in time getting reset on every boot. But it's fast enough, and I hope the bug will eventually get a fix.
  • last time I tried PPP was not good enough, but it's been ~2 months ago and support was quite fresh. Might need to check again.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanx for info and answers. Best regards