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Red Hat stops all upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd (hadess.net)

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you get when you merge a company with IBM?

IBM.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

You get what you fuckin deserve!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Annoying commercials about "the cloud" and some robot they built 30 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (4 children)

All these corporations looking to kill off their own relevance. They all in the same death cult or something?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

Never forget, in a capitalist system, every firm will always eventually try to get as many people as possible, to pay as much as possible, for as little as possible.

Enshitification

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They all in the same death cult or something?

Yeah, capitalism it seems like.

I guess asking for sustainable business practices is too much to ask for from the system. "Sufficient" money is never good enough. Gotta try to get all the money, even if it means burning down everything one holds dear.

Hell, the system is literally willing to burn down the whole world in pursuit of more. The more you think about it, the more senseless it all becomes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's called enshittification - Cory Doctorow invented the term.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hope that backfire on IBM.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, it will but so slowly and further down the road, nobody at IBM will see the connection. When Fedora (or desktop Linux in general) will be slightly less appealing to people who in 10 years will become the decision makers at IT departments, it'll weaken the position of Linux and in turn the commercial support providers.

Guess, everyone who does not yet own a Steam Deck needs to get one because Valve seems to be the biggest commercial proponent of consumer GNU/Linux.

[–] Remontoire 67 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

this is bad

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Thanks for linking the actual article!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Honestly, they just keep lowering the value paying them brings. Execs barely want to pay them in the first place, why would I as the engineer or IT solutioner care about putting money towards support if they keep abandoning projects...

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago

Farewell, Red Hat. Thanks for all your good work throughout the years. Sucks you sold out to IBM

[–] dinckelman 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

These kind of changes are absolutely infuriating, and what's even worse, is that there's nothing we can do about it

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and what’s even worse, is that there’s nothing we can do about it

Look I know it's much easier said than done, but you can choose to walk away from IBM and Red Hat over this. If these changes start to lose money, they'll respond. Otherwise they'll see how much abuse their customers are willing to put up with and start doubling down.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mean that Fedora users should question if they want to keep using this distro? Because I do use Fedora, and I understand I'm "beta-testing" an enterprise product, but yeah, for me this changes my "relationship" with Red Hat. Or what do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I just don't want folks thinking they're trapped, because that's when a vendor will really start putting the screws to you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't use Fedora or it's ilk for starters.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, Fedora and Gnome were embraced and extended by IBM.

You know what's next now.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, Ubuntu will fork all of these, then trash them, introduce their alternatives, then drop support in 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Introducing unity 2

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Welp.. Gnome will lost many of their contributor/maintainer.. Well, at least KDE folks is backed by Novell(SUSE) and XFCE is purely maintained by community already. It seems Linux desktop is still safe. lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

SUSE was an independent company before, during, and after its 5 years under Novell. That's a weird attribution to Novell when SUSE has always been the contributing company to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Oh, sorry.. I thought they are one from the start.. thx for correcting me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

But this was it's year!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

power-profiles-daemon is now archived? Dammit, that was a big one for Fedora.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am a little concerned to step in front of the hate machine here but this feels like a continued move away from app dev to more infrastructural stuff as previously announced by them. If so, I am all for it as not everybody is going to use Rhythmbox or LibreOffice but we can all use HDR and other core tech that Red Hat will develop instead. They are one of the few Linux companies that can fund these large, technical projects. Having them working on apps feels like a waste of their engineering potential.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But if they are moving towards infrastructure I doubt HDR will be on their radar - or any desktop related technology for that matter

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, The Enterprise Linux war is just getting better and better!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

There is no Way this is going to improve anything Red Hat's side

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

why did you link to a kbin view of another post right here on [email protected] ?

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[–] danielfgom 5 points 2 years ago

Let's hope the community will pick these up or some of the distro's like Ubuntu, Mint etc

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can someone tell me what this means for fedora?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Very little I suspect. These specific packages may evolve less quickly but will still be available. None of them were Fedora specific.

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