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The Agora

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Those in favor reply "Aye"

Those against reply "Nay"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aye, but with the caveat that people outside the instance should be allowed/encouraged to make comments if they feel it has value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem I've got with that (at the moment and hopefully that will be fixed) is that those of us on Jerboa can't see where users come from. Heck even on the website it can be easy to miss...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you considered contacting the Jerboa devs to have that ability added?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I checked and it's already a medium priority issue on GitHub 👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

First vote, first big mistake.
This vote should be taken as invalid because arguments must be heared before an informed decision can be made. Valid arguments have been brought in after people had already voted.
[removed wrong user mention]

Edit: and there exist methods of not only doing a polarising yes/no vote but more nuanced ones when there is more than just one option. Systemic consensing is one that i know of.

Edit 2: we should first make sure that we agree on the modus operandi, anyway. For example, also the open "yes/no" reply vote might not be acceptable to everyone (there would have been up/down-voting available,why not use that?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This vote should be taken as invalid because arguments must be heared before an informed decision can be made.

Why? No rules on it, you should make that a discussion/vote topic though.

@[email protected] to your consideration.

I try not to interact using my other accounts (not everyone can see burggit) so if you do ping me, just use the one related to the thing, please and thank you.

Edit: and there exist methods of not only doing a polarising yes/no vote but more nuanced ones when there is more than just one option. Systemic consensing is one that i know of.

Edit 2: we should first make sure that we agree on the modus operandi, anyway. For example, also the open “yes/no” reply vote might not be acceptable to everyone (there would have been up/down-voting available,why not use that?)

You can start your own voting ways on that kinda stuff, I just did this because it's likely what the ancient greeks at Agora would've done. Just shout your answer for all to hear. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_vote#Ancient_Greece

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: changing to nay after reading The Dude's comment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay

Like TheDude said, it goes against the very nature of decentralization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Aye.

Not sure if that is a feature of Lemmy but it seems pretty simple to script an automod to do mod things to people who post here without being on the instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~Aye~~ ok now I want to take back my aye. I'm not so sure any more :/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Aye.

I feel there should be a minimum level of investment, I think the bar should be higher than just being a part of the instance, but this is a good start.

[–] breadsmasher 1 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t preventing other instances from voting go against the point of being federated?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay. I agree with thedude's thoughts about this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

edit: changed to nay after reading thedude

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think discussion should be open to anyone, but voting should only be by those who will be bound by the changed rules.

People with accounts on other instances have their own sets of rules to be concerned with and are not obligated to follow the rules decided on and implemented by this instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nay

We have open registration anyway, so there wouldn't be much friction if an outsider wanted to create an account to vote. We're large enough that we can rely on our numbers, we just need to make sure everyone knows about the Agora.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

After creating an account and agreeing to follow the rules they aren't an outsider anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aye

Edit: Wow how fascinating, someone already went through my profile and downvoted all my comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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