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A recent patent application is suggesting that Google is going to replace the notch with an under-display front-facing camera in future Pixel phones.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Notch? I have the pixel 6 and its barely a small circle, don't even notice it because it fits perfectly in the upper bar.

A notch I would consider those ungastly iphone notches which take over 15% of your upper screen space.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why? I've yet to see one that doesn't look like shit.

[–] kadu 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some Chinese devices where the camera is pretty much invisible. It doesn't look like Samsung's version where you can clearly see the pixels.

That being said, they absolutely destroy camera quality - so either Google is betting on AI to fake face details, or they assume people will use the back cameras more often.

[–] AlmightySnoo 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

either Google is betting on AI

Pretty much this:

The output from each sensor is then combined to create a final high-quality image using digital image processing and machine learning. In this way, the negative impact of shooting through a screen is reduced.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Googles software on photos is usually the best. Still rather have a hole punch than a shitty camera tho

[–] elbarto777 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss cameras outside of the screen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't mind the whole punch cuz it usually just ends up taking up a little of the notification bar anyways

[–] elbarto777 2 points 1 year ago

I just want to be able to cover it without much fuzz.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we have it under display and not look like shit?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not really with whats available for consumer grade tech rn

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New features are going to get weird and pointless as smartphone sales continue to drop.

[–] elbarto777 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be honest, if the camera was positioned in the average place where a person's eyes would be in a video call, then we'd finally have eye-to-eye conversations.

But as usual, I want to be able to tell where my camera is, so that I can put some black tape on it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People usually end up looking at their own preview anyway, instead of whomever they are calling

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I started disabling my own view during zoom meetings because I found myself always looking at myself lol

[–] mellejwz 1 points 1 year ago

Don't they already have a solution for that? Not sure about Android but I remember FaceTime having an option to make it look like you're looking into the camera instead of down to the center.

[–] neptune 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel indifferent about this, on one hand its great to have even a tiny bit of screen real-estate back, on the other hand I expect the quality to look awful unless there's been a major development with under display cameras.

Personally I think I prefer the display cutout or pop-up cameras until they improve the quality.

[–] elbarto777 3 points 1 year ago

Pop up cameras would be best for privacy reasons.

[–] Mojojojo1993 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OnePlus 7 had a Camera that popped out the top. I'd have that. I rarely if ever use front camera. Most gir apps that need facial recognition

[–] azn03 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Problem with that is it's a movable part, and with movable parts it's prone to break. Unless they can make that super durable... I liked it when it came out. I was tempted to buy it.

[–] Mojojojo1993 3 points 1 year ago

True everything must eventually break but as I said. I barely use it. There if I need it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I used mine for three years, and gave it to a friend who is still using it. It works flawlessly. They really should have kept it. I LOVED it from a privacy perspective.

[–] amenotef 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

After comparing old sensors from an older Pixel with a top bezel vs new sensors that are under the display.

I prefer more sensors/peripherals that are not under the display.

Especially for the ambient light sensor.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a tech that will still need a few more generations to mature, but I don't mind a worse quality selfie camera since I rarely use it. I personally would enjoy the more screen real estate, but tbh I currently see nothing wrong with hole punches. If anything, I think the Pixel 5 had the best hole punch location off to the corner.

[–] amenotef 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally prefer the (extremely ugly) iPhone notch with better sensors, than under the screen. Apple does very well despite of prioritizing this.

My preference over a notch is still a thin bezel like in the Pixel 3.

I prefer this over aesthetics. Especially after putting a pretty phone on a case. (The case already takes away all the aesthetics).

I was never touching the brightness settings in the older nexus/pixels and I really miss that. They were much better catching and distinguishing different low light levels. I also compared the Pixel 4 Vs 5 using devcheck tool to test the ambient light sensor, and the under screen sensor can't see shit at night.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Images from the Samsung ones still look bad, not sure why we'd want this for like 1% more screen

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, or seems like quality of selfies on Pixels will keep going down.

My 2XL is still unmatched to this day.

Pixel 3 was probably peek selfie, but I haven't owned one of those