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Since Internet search has and will change, which search engines do you use successfully, and what are their advantages?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use DuckDuckGo, I forgot how to live without the search tags such as !yt, !fb, !w to search specific sites.

[–] ouigol 2 points 1 year ago

Yes! Using bangs is so convenient. Another tip is that you can search wikipedia in multiple languages, eg. !wen (English) or !wsv (Swedish). Comes in handy since !w searches your browsers language

[–] rarkgrames 1 points 1 year ago

I use bang shortcuts a lot on DDG. I’m often doing screen shares for work where I’m training people and I’ll sometimes need to grab latitude and longitude values for a customer’s location. I just type their town name followed by !gm and a few times customers have asked how I did that, and when I explain they say they’re going to have try DDG

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Kagi, hands down, is by far the best search engine I've ever used (next to Neeva, which got bought and shut down).

Just simple searches like "Best gaming headphones" or "Realtek Driver Download" and comparing them with Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Brave, Startpage, etc. shows how the quality of the results are far superior.

And you can directly define, which sites you'd like to see higher / more results of or less - or even completely block or pin them to the top.

Also, it also shows you directly, before visiting a site, in colors if a site has a very high number of ads and/or trackers.

And they support for power users custom CSS to adjust everything, URL rewrites (e.g. change all Reddit URLs to old.reddit or to automatically open libreddit), DDG and custom bangs, and much more.

Lastly, I created a so-called "Lens", which allows me to search Lemmy / Kbin content only (also still have one for Reddit).
Meaning with one click, it shows me results from only sites or keywords I've defined - see image.

Very satisfied with it, can only recommend.

(copied from another thread I replied to)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I just searched some topics related to a paper I'm working on and found some good resources which I haven't seen on Google yet. Really interesting.

[–] MisterFrog 3 points 1 year ago

I was interested in this, but $5US/month for searching is making me feel like dealing with the ads is worth it for me 😅 I am willing to pay, but I could be watching nebula for the same price.

Any insight on why it's is so expensive?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

+1 I've been using Kagi for almost a year now, and it's so good! Well worth the cost of the subscription.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have to shout out Wiby. It is focused on like weird personal websites from the early 2000s, that sort of thing. Absolutely not a general-purpose search engine, but mashing the "surprise me" button will take you to all sorts of fun places.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm just hitting 'surprise me' and having a blast.

[–] SheeEttin 2 points 1 year ago

Stumbleupon is back, baby!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kagi.com no ads, private, you pay a subscription so they look for your interest instead of you being the product, has many customizations, very responsive company, very good use of AI, super fast, doesn’t require javascript, and many other things, just give it a try

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What paid plan do you use ? If it's not the ultimate plan, do you often go over the “limit” ? I'm interested, but I have a hard time knowing what plan I will actually require.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use you.com as it's centered on an ai chatbot and pulls in traditional web search results to augment it's answers. it works quite well.

[–] ouigol 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, is that the only search engine you use? Does it work well when you want to browse different links?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

yeah for most of my searches it's all I need. you.com adds traditional search results in the sidebar if you need them. I do use !g (google) in some cases (usually for a niche specific page I need).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

My top ones:

DuckDuckGo - may not be as private as they claim, but has been my go-to for years. Simple, but feature-full and still mostly decent for search.

Marginalia - a search engine that favors text heavy websites, perfect for research

Searx instance - not my main due to how spotty the instances can be and lazy to set up mine. But can basically grab stuff from all the "big" search engines, which saves a lot of time. I don't consider it a godsend like most people do, though. As since big engines can give poor results.

frogfind - a duckduckgo interface meant for older computers that converts webpages to basic html. Perfect for news articles and tutorials where you want to skip the "fluff".

[–] Code_a 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use a private SearxNg instance that is self hosted on my home server.

It draws results from multiple search engines that you can choose from: DDG, Bing, brave, start page, Wikipedia and many more.

It is easily deployed using docker containers. Being self hosted it's pretty quick. Only slowed slightly by making simultaneous queries to multiple search engines.

[–] Ricotyl 2 points 1 year ago

I use searxng as well but a public instance. Tried kagis free trial though and it was very good. Trying to decide between the two now.

[–] Brendan 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] sudneo 5 points 1 year ago

I also use kagi.com (the name is quite funny for Italian speakers...).

For those interested in "why", here are my reasons:

  • generally, very high quality results.
  • completely ad-free and with an ironclad privacy policy (probably the best I have seen so far)
  • paid, which can be a downside, but it's also a way for me to know that I am the customer, not advertisers.
  • ability to use bangs and to create custom ones
  • ability to easily filter by area, there are a fee common areas such as "programming" or "recipe" or "academic" which affect the context of the search.
  • ability to up/downrank websites. If I personally find a certain website providing often useful answers for me, I can uprank it and make it show higher in the searches.
  • finally, a small cosmetic thing, but the results are organized very nicely, such as "best 10 x" articles being in a simple list and saving space, etc.

As a bonus, the company seems nicely transparent and overall well-intentioned. I hope it stays like this.

[–] GlitzyArmrest 5 points 1 year ago

Kagi is a very worthy purchase.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have switched to Ecosia few days ago. No conplains so far. Its free, and builds off Bing IIRC.

I have been intrigued by Kagi, but Im not really ready to pay a sub for a search engine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

paulgo.io. (searxng). A privacy-respecting, open metasearch engine. It also lists the location from where the results are pulled from, (i.e. Google, Bing, etc.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a searxng instance as-well, one I can host myself. Besides the cool factor of hosting your own personal search engine you can tweak the setting a on a server level as you wish and you know the machine your queries are going to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When I want to try something AI related I use the Bing AI though, it can pull from multiple search results when giving an answer which is cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I use DuckDuckGo and it workw quite well and at least they say they protect your privacy (I am sure they do a better job than GAFAM/BigTech spyware mafia), but am looking for something better since I found out it has some agreement with Microsoft and I do not trust those spyware-producing convicted monopoly abusers at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For general purposes I use Ecosia.

For a while I used Swisscows almost exclusively. They do an excellent job with privacy.

Due to a job I had, I moved away from it as I needed extremely specific information. As I write this, I'm thinking of giving it another try.

[–] iliketurtles 1 points 1 year ago

DuckDuckGo... It isn't perfect, but at least the first page isn't exclusively ads and seo crap.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

might not count, but I use startpage, which uses google while allegedly keeping none of the info that makes google problematic
sometimes i use duckduckgo,

in firefox you can make a shortcut to type anything in any searchbar too, like so: (in this example I'll use kbin.social search)

We type something into search to get the exact url we need, that ends up being https://kbin.social/search?q=[something]
in this case [something] is obviously what we typed, so we save a bookmark of https://kbin.social/search?q=%s where %s swaps out what we type when we call to the bookmark
Then we give the bookmark a keyword that makes it easy to type, it can be anything but I'll just use kb
now whenever i type 'kb somethingsomething' it will search somethingsomething on kbin.social

I use this for youtube, arch wiki, the type-effectiveness graph on bulbapedia pages ( https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%s_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Type_effectiveness ), etc, etc

[–] danieljackson 4 points 1 year ago

Self hosted searxng, and duckduckgo.com. I have to admit that I !g (= execute the search on google) once in a while when I can't find what I wanted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

In between Brave Search and DDG.

[–] MrCenny 3 points 1 year ago

I use searx.be wich is based of SearX. It basically gathers up all the results from a bunch of different engines and accesses them from their IP instead of yours. Makes it harder for engines to fingerprint you on the internet. It can sometimes be a bit slow, but I'll trade in speed for security and privacy any day. You don't need to use the .be instance, there are multiple ones, just like lemmy and the other fediverse instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly? Bing chat has been quite good to me if I have specific questions. It searches the web and gives me a summary.

[–] FrullaPapaya 3 points 1 year ago

I am learning so many things from this thread

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Brave Search for the majority of things. Ecosia and sometimes Searx.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using DDG almost exclusively (still need google occasionally) but noticed the quality on DDG has been decreasing with the ride of generative content. Anything travel or review related is just garbage.

[–] Kethal 1 points 1 year ago

I also use other engines before I go to Google, and if I end up at Google, I find that the generated content degrades Google's results too. The junk is everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Duck duck go cause I'm a basic bitch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, still Google, with Bing a distant second. I've realised at least half of my searches are locale-specific, and engines like DDG are so American-centric. This is even with letting DDG use accurate location data. Reading the options here and hoping to find something I've not heard before that'll work and hopefully replace Google as my main search engine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are in Europe, Qwant is a decent alternative. There are also alternatives like Ecosia and Startpage that use Google or Bing behind the scenes but limit how much they can track you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not in Europe, so don't think that'll work. Probably have to use something like what you said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Startpage, google search results without ads, trackers but much slower, the slowness can get annoying sometimes when my internet speed is bad

[–] WarlordSdocy 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using Brave browser lately so I've been using their search as well. It's been alright but been thinking about going back to duck duck go.

[–] D_Air1 1 points 1 year ago

Haven't seen presearch mentioned here yet. They claim to be private, decentralized, and powered by blockchain. I haven't done any fact checking though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Duck-Duck-Go. Getting worse for privacy (allegedly) but it's been overall great for me. If I can't find what I'm searching for on the first page or two I just add a !g to the front to search an anonymized google for that query.

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