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Communities on different instances about the same topic should have the option to essentially federate so a post on one appears on all of them and opening any of them shows you the comments from all of them. This way when lemmy.world is down its not a big deal because posting to any news community federates to all of the communities instead of barely having people see your post. Federation could be decided by the community mods and the comments can have a little “/c/[email protected]” on it so you know which community the comment was originally posted on.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good idea but this will lead to even more centralization if it's decided by the instances who their communities federates with.

The top ones will federate and leave the small instances out of the loop. Or put demands on other instances they have to fulfill to be part of the community federation.

It all ends up similar to Reddit in the end. Maybe it's unavoidable and we cant have properly decentralized now when it's centralized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love the idea! In the meantime, I think mods of similar communities should talk to each other and decide to merge their communities into one, perhaps on a server that's not lemmy.world. I don't remember which one, but I've seen that happening

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, a single site with all the communities. Like reddit....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, lots of instances with communities that, if they so chose, can mirror each other. Very different

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was [email protected] that did that and some members of the community threw a fit.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hopeful niche interest communities migrate over to smaller instances, I've seen some niche interest instances pop up slowly but surely thankfully.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want all like communities to have their own instances, but that’s probably just my organizational brain wanting to group things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree. Mine is mainly for books and writing so I hope more people with those interests (and maybe those communities) will set up shop over here. Idk beyond that, I guess reaching out and offering them a space?

[–] CrayonRosary 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Federation already solves the issue you have. If every user subscribed to every instance of /c/cats, then they would all see every post and could comment on each of them. There's nothing gained by having another level of federation other than making it slightly easier to subscribe to all of them at once.

Personally, I'd rather see user-controlled "multireddits", but better. You group together any number of communities and give the group a name. Then make it easy to publish the group as a link that others can view and import into their account.

All we really need is any easy way for people to subscribe to multiple instance of "cats" with one tap. (And to unsubscribe just as easily). I think the best way to do this is with user-driven, sharable community groups.

For example, I could make a group that includes "cats", "kittens", "jellybean toes", "cat photos", "cat bellies", "chonkers", and whatever else. They don't even need to have the same name. Then I can share that somewhere. Mods could put popular groupings in sidebars. Fediverse websites could have whole lists of popular groupings.

Plus you could have an additional feature: Lemmy could let you view one of your groups as a feed, just like you currently can view "Subscribed", "Local", or "Everything". Sometimes you just want to see cat photos and not be bothered by world news or politics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still don't get what the point is of multiple instances with the same communities. Your proposal is a fix for a problem that doesnt need to exist IMO. Just have one thematic community be on one specific instance, and a community for a different topic on a different instance

[–] CrayonRosary 1 points 1 year ago

Any instance could go down forever at any point. Should all cat photos ever posted to Lemmy be on one instance? Hell no.

Besides, my idea is about combining any communities into a group. They could be duplicates like you're assuming, or just closely related, like cat communities. Or I could group together several different sports teams communities into one feed to let me just view those communities when I feel like it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like this idea and it sounds easy to implement without changing underlying infrastructure.

It would be nice being able to publish communities I follow and check out other people feeds, not only similar communities'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can already view a community from any instance. Just subscribe to communities you want. Support more and smaller instances of you want more decentralization. Lemmy.world going down taking out so many communities with it is a problem of too much being hosted there. Everything you're describing basically already exists. It would be very silly to force communities to merge with other ones. Just because they have the same name doesn't mean they have the same rules.

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