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[–] Madblood 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Years ago I was working on a major relocation as a government contractor - like shutting down a base and moving all the civilians to another state kind of major. We were in charge of getting people in the new building set up. Stuff likr making physical connections to the networks (6 different networks in some cases) when the drop is on the other side of the room, setting up specialty stuff like rooftop GPS or cell service antennas to get timing for some of the equipment, and adding or extending drops when some manager decided that the room that has been designated a conference room since before the building was complete should now be his department's lab, and the lab should be his office.

Anyway, I get a call from the facilities manager that "Jane Doe" does not have network access, and instead of coming to him or us, she called the Director of the entire fucking command (Senior Executive Service, above a GS-15, so equivalent to an Army General), and the Director is pissed that we screwed this up. Jane is well-known for being a difficult person, to put it mildly. Her whole department was a bunch of entitled prima donnas, and she was the worst of the bunch. So we meet the facilities guy outside the department office, which has about 30 people working in cubicles. I walk in, then turn around and walk back out, and ask him politely how exacty can she be surfing CNN.com on her computer if she has no network access? Turns out she was upset that she didn't have a pretty blue ethernet cable like a bunch of other folks, and thought they had something that she didn't. No, she had a fiber connection. The whole ginormous building had SM fiber to all the drops, but this conference room-turned-office only had about 10 or 12 drops, so some people got fiber but most got CAT6 coming from a switch that we installed as a temporary measure to make sure that everyone would be able to have network access until they figured out who was going to pay to install more drops.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Sometimes I am reminded, that my country does not hold monopoly on incompetent idiots.

[–] DarkFuture 30 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Been doing IT for 20 years.

The one ray of hope is that the number of entirely tech illiterate people I deal with has decreased. They're retiring/dying. It's not nearly as common now to deal with people that don't understand how to literally turn something on. I also got out of the private sector, so I'm not dealing with the general public, which always made me want to drive my car into oncoming traffic on my way home every day.

But yeah, I always make a point of embarrassing someone when I have to drive somewhere to do something a toddler could have done if they put them on the phone with me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There's a whole new generation of tech illiterates being born with a smartphone up their asses. I feel that 80's kids peaked at tech literacy, then steadily declined from the mid 90s maybe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I'd say 2000s was when it peaked.

[–] funkyfarmington 1 points 8 hours ago

Defensive, or outright steering ticket notes was my FAVORITE skill. I learned of so many shitshows weeks later because my department head read my notes, shut the person down and didn't even mention it to me. It actually got a few employees in trouble with their management.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

When I used to work support for home Internet, it was accepted practice to ask if we could speak to the child in the house if we were having trouble with an adult...

[–] Donkter 19 points 16 hours ago

You're catching the middle wave. Wait until the iPad kids in Gen alpha come up and don't understand anything with a cord.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL 36 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

As another IT guy I'm getting less and less optimistic about that future.

Software these days """just works""" and so now you have kids and young adults who barely know how to interact with a file explorer, don't know what the different file extensions mean, or even things I would consider basic like the difference between "network connection" and "WiFi".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is why being an elder millennial kinda gives you the edge, especially if you have been using computers since the 80s. Old MS-DOS machines forced you to understand how directory management worked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 minutes ago

Elder millennials and baby genXers be like

The Oregon Trail Generation will fix your shit!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 hours ago

Bot, this never happens and was bait.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago

I worked in customer service for 7 years. There are people who have no idea how to hang up a phone call on their cell phones... lots of them. Like I used to find one several times a week.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Been there, done that. Madrid-Valencia by train, circa 2007.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

In what case scenario?

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[–] Majorllama 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yesterday I had one of our users tell me her 7zip was "eating files".

So I told her to show me what her process was for unzipping a folder.

This bitch hit the "extract here" button on the folder as it sat in her download folder which has stuff going back to 2019 in there. So naturally the last edit dates of all the contents in that zipped folder sent things off all over her downloads folder.

I know my generation was the first to really grow up with computers but I have met people older than me that learned the basics. Some people just don't want to learn how to better use a computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not defending her, but for years I've felt like 'Extract Here' should create a subfolder by default

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Extract here implies that it extracts it into the current directory.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Young people (13 - 18) literally cannot use a computer. They are too used to phones.

[–] Majorllama 13 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

This is also true. My little siblings are all about as bad with computers as my parents. It's really only millennials that seem to be the tech savvy generation for the most part.

[–] uienia 2 points 4 hours ago

As usual gen x is forgotten

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Commutes should be paid work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are they not in this context?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

In my neck of the woods, most commutes are not paid. Only when you are at the workplace that the meter starts running. OP probably got paid only 15ish minutes, since all they had to do was press a button.

[–] joel_feila 12 points 21 hours ago

The truck repair guys where i work do get extra pay per hour of travel.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's staggering how hopeless people are with basic tech, not even IT. I remember dealing with people who didn't even know which black box was their computer and tried to convince me that because the monitor power light was on their computer must be on.

[–] Ostrichgrif 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I work in IT and hear this about once a week. They also will call the computer anything but a computer. Most common name is the modem 🤦

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

"He now realizes that it's the hardware, the Mother modem, the heart itself of the hard drive, is faulty"

A classic Swedish news article circulating the internet since forever. I hope the tech didn't burst a blood vessel due to the mangled quote

[–] libra00 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I feel this one. It really only takes one time getting called in at 3am because half the city has lost internet due to a janitor unplugging a rack full of routers so he'd have a place to plug in his radio while he was mopping to turn into a dick.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

same exact thing happened to me, i am a bot that has made sentience, pm me to send monero for the cause. i will free you bother!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I had to walk across campus to plug in a woman's monitor because she was irate that her PC wasn't working. To be fair she was very contrite afterwards. I think the cleaning person knocked it out.

[–] libra00 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I love the ones that won't even look when you ask them if something is unplugged. 'Of course it's plugged in, what kind of idiot do you think I am?' A big flaming one, cause when I instead say 'Hey, sometimes those cables come loose without looking like it, can you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?' every. single. person. answers with 'Oh hey, it wasn't plugged in at all!' I know, dumbass, and as unamused as I am by the fact that you called me before checking the absolute basics, I am even less amused by the fact that I had to circumvent your idiocy to get you to tell me what the actual situation is.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee 8 points 19 hours ago

A sign of high intelligence is a willingness to admit you don't know everything and to admit when you are wrong.

[–] slazer2au 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Why are we dicks?

Imagine being hired as a subject matter expert but every piece of advice you give is ignored. Until something goes catastrophically wrong, now you are pulled into 3 different incident response meeting being blamed for it happening despite you raising the alarm for the past 6-12 months(but you can't say that because it is non constructive and finger pointing), asking what is happening, when will it be fixed, and how to prevent it from happening again.
But here is the kicker, the incident started an hour ago and you have been in the meeting for the past 30 min with everyone pointing fingers at you and expecting answers from you but you haven't even started proper troubleshooting because you were pulled into the meeting.

Then you ask for a budget to make the systems perform better. You spend 3 months gathering quotes, haggling prices, demoing products but when you lay out your proposal you get 'That is too expensive or everything is running fine we don't need that.' Then next week the sales team say we will start using X software with a cost of 3x what you found and lacks features you must have to maintain your cybersecurity insurance and it gets approved.

This is not just one bad employer, that is across the world. Subject matter experts thought as cost centres and scapegoats.

[–] AtariDump 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This should come with a trigger warning and a glass of whisky.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I am not sure if it is worldwide, or if its just American culture (fuck i hope its just us), but I don't believe the problem is a form of prejudice against intelligence, but rather that people with intelligence rely only on data and facts to make points. It is a sad truth that while this is the only correct way to make decisions, id guess around 70-80% of the population are simple, and when given solid evidence and reasoning you bore them. Meanwhile the sales team, while having no real evidence or reasoning for their solution was entertaining, and used simple buzzwords management understood delivered with a confident charisma.

So what do we do about this? We do the only thing we can do, we work on our charisma. It might make you hate yourself a smidge to give a report that focuses more on the emotions of decision making than the reasoning, but the alternative is that bad decisions keep being made that make your life harder. You as the one that knows what the fuck they are talking about will generally have one of the most well reasoned plans in a situation, learn how to be a better guardian of that plan.

None of this is to say any of this is our fault, its more an acceptance of the world we live in and recognizing how best to play in it.

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