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[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Prisons are fucking full. All that's happening is they're chucking out prisoners THAT SHOULD BE IN JAIL to make space incase there's riots. They need to built more jails ffs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The solution to crime is never more jails or prisons

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. But the key to stopping harm posed by some offenders is jail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Exceedingly few. Generally less than a percent of a percent of violent offenders, and even then mental health arrest and evaluation/experimentation is better for everyone involved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Where are you getting those statistics from?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Norway's approach to criminal reform. Exceedingly few criminals end up never getting out, despite being reviewed regularly. In general all science first approaches to criminal justice state explicitly that prison or jail time without reform programs only increases the likelihood that someone will offend again, and those reform programs are the way to reduce harm, not just separating someone from society which does little to nothing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Yes I agree, although id be surprised if the percentages you gave were accurate. The reality is that we can't do that overnight, there's massive organisational and cultural issues. So for now, we need to build more prisons

[–] RubberDuck 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But haven't they sorted poverty, the housing crisis, the CoL crisis, the education crisis, the need for food banks, child benefits etc, I mean we are so much better off than last year why would anyone be pissed off

[–] br3d 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Last summer's riots were far-right anti-immigration riots, not riots about standards of living.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I think it's a mistake to handwave general anger and discontent from citizens and to put the entire blame on the symptom.

Where are all the far right groups being organised? Is it in the wealthier areas where people are able to live? Or is it in the regions that are being hardest hit by austerity? Right wing groups latch onto anger that people have due to their quality of live deteriorating. They divert the anger towards their own populist agenda, and people will fall for it as it feels tangible and achievable, even if it won't do a god damn thing. Crumbling infrastructure? Must be the migrants who are also using that infrastructure. Oh the building was sold off to a foreign investment firm? Oh the employees who maintained that infrastructure are now paying exorbitant rates for housing? Nah, that's far too complex of a problem to tackle.

Wealth inequality will continue to grow, and the government isn't doing anything to truly tackle it. To think that anti-immigration sentiment exists entirely in a vacuum is naive and I think extremely dangerous, as you risk alienating those who are being hit hardest by this inequality. This will only get worse, and you can't bury your head in the sand forever.