I donβt consider it an ally of the American people, either.
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It's too bad that the sensible areas of US are on both sides of the continent. Would make a split much simpler if they were closer together.
Maybe France will end up liberating the North American continent once again. π
You could find an area with an "oppressed" French minority, and start by stirring an uprising in there. Once the pot begins to boil, try adding some French commando forces in disguise.
They could start in la Louisiane and OrlΓ©ans, and teach you how to pronounce these names correctly
Time for take-backsies on the Louisiana Purchase. Also the Statue of Liberty.
For 53% of American people, the United States is no longer an ally of US.
The time to express that was 4 months ago. Now you can only buy a leopard-proof mask and pray.
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The other 27% must not read the news, eh?
Even if you believe the US is an ally to whatever country you're from (outside of Russia, of course), he's proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable.
27% hoping the US is just going through a phase
That was an understandable reaction for 2016 to 2020. But not anymore.
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I assume the 27% are mostly fans of Marine Le Pen and they quite like Donald Trump.
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The other 27% are fascists too.
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France should take the Statue of Liberty back. The US gov will probably replace it anyway, by one of Donald having is golden balls sucked by a sexy eagle while driving a cybertruck, or something.
France has always been a bit different. They left NATO for a bit to push back against the US/UK dominance and they developed an independent nuclear deterrent and delivery systems. They are a shit country in many ways, probably more like the US than they realise. They held onto colonialism for too long, have a stupid political system and their police and security services have done some shitty things. But hard not to admire their independence even if some of their motivations for independence (eg maintaining colonial possessions) might have been suspect.
Many countries caved to the US and became client states, heavily reliant on US defence industry and an extension of the US military, not because we were free loaders as Trump claims but because the US pushed their interests so hard and for so long. We cancelled our own weapons programs and shuttered our factories to support US jobs ahead of our own. Most of us are so dependent on the US it has been hard to conceive of a world without them. Being against the US alliance was basically equivalent to being against national security and being a fool or a supporter of potential enemies.
Trump is breaking people's world view. The French leadership were decades ahead of the rest of us.
A small correction, France never left NATO completely. They left a lot of the joint command structures and stopped hosting NATO's HQ in Paris, but they never cancelled the treaty or anything like that
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The French people are amazing! They actually fight against oppression. Look up the gilets jaunes movement. The media barely covered it but they protest loudly, disruptively and even violently, looting etc. French descent people tend to do the same, eg the student fees protests in Montreal, in which the students won!!
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The French:
Ever since those fuckers voted for the insane right wing populist lunatic, they are no longer a reliable ally!!
Also the French:
Yay, Le Pen!
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Only? Probably for the remaining 27% it never was...
That's crazy to me that America has changed so much that a nation they freed from Nazi control cannot consider the USA an ally any more because of the fascist ideology the trump administration is showing to the world. This all happened in like 2 months time. This is just the beginning and I don't see things getting better at all.
It's so much worse for the US
France was our first ally. After the revolutionary war, France was the first to recognize us as a country.
They were the first NATO nation to join us in the global war on terror after we invoked Article 5.
Make all the "France surrendered" jokes you want but they have given more to us than we have given them, diplomatically speaking.
Trump is just giving every ally we have a huge middle finger that will take decades to overcome. All so that Trump can feel like a big man.
Make all the "France surrendered" jokes you want
It's so weird to me that France has been a military force that has oscillated between a force to be reckoned with and the most powerful land force in the world since the 17th century, but you lose one war to a blitzkrieg with an overconfident military leadership...
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I canβt blame them. I wouldnβt want to be an ally with the U.S. either.
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