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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ford didn't care about Canadians when he did nothing about the housing shortage for the last 4 years, I wonder why he pretends to care now?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 38 minutes ago

Pretend to care just won him another 4 years as premier so why wouldn't he?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

USian here, don't think twice, fucking do it.

[–] mostNONheinous 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Do you mean American? Or am I having a stroke?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (6 children)

Mexicans and Canadians are also from North America, and, hence, are American.

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[–] Bytemeister 4 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Please please please only do this during the day. 8AM to 5PM. Don't put the squeeze on the voters. They either didn't vote for trump, or they were so dumb that they did vote for trump won't understand why their electric bill went through the roof. Do this during the day to shut down the businesses that stumped for trump, sent him millions of dollars and bent the knee in the hopes the tax burden will get shifted further down the income scale.

But definitely do it!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

Sorry. 24/7, just like the tariffs.

It will hurt. That's the point. Maybe it'll hurt enough that y'all DO something about the absolute fuckery happening down there. Canada didn't ask for this shit.

I hate that this is where things are but pretty soon folks will need to get to the FO part of FAFO.

[–] Bytemeister 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago) (1 children)

You can't bomb people into loving you. A lesson hard learned in the Middle East.

Sure, you can run those tariffs 24/7, and it would be totally in your sovereign right to do so. However, that's not going to change anything. Trump may be a blithering idiot, but the Peter Thiels and Stephen Millers feeding him all those "bright ideas" certainly knew that equal tariffs from Canada would be the response. The line here will be "Canada is attacking you, and shutting off your power", and the trump supporters will gag themselves choking down that line of rhetoric as hard and as fast as possible. Thats not going to solve the tariffs problem for Canada though, it will only make it worse.

If you want revenge, equal tariffs. If you wanna actually stick it to the people that stuck you and force them to backtrack, go after the businesses bottom line.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 seconds ago

This all just seems incredibly sad to me. As a nation, it sounds like the fight has been completely beaten out of you all, so much so that you're afraid of even a little pain, vote based on empty promises and sound bites, and blame each other instead of yourselves.

You all traded your freedom for convenience. You're like flowers, opened wide, waiting for rain rather than vines that seek.

Best of luck to you all. We have to prepare ourselves, as members of the global economy, for this economic fallout. I'm prepared to fight and suffer, if I have to protect my own way of life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

Trump's tariffs don't just apply to business hours. Americans need to feel the pain that Canadians will.

[–] Bytemeister 0 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

Sure, if you want to have fair tariffs.

If you want to have effective tariffs that reverse trumps policy, then you need to be more selective.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 minutes ago

I disagree. If people are comfortable, they won't want to change the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Don't put the squeeze on the voters. They either didn't vote for trump, or they were so dumb that they did vote for trump won't understand why their electric bill went through the roof.

The whole point of democracy is the voters have an impact. If nothing changes for the voters don't be surprised when they vote for the same party next time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Ford’s “smile” masks the grim reality of trade wars hurting everyday citizens on both sides. Effectively summarizes the stakes and implications of Ford's actions.

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[–] DrFistington 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

As an American, fucking do it, and make sure DC and Red states feel the most pain. And don't have some qwar ass back door conversation/deal to end the tariffs. Refuse to end them until he goes on live television and reads the following

"To all my fellow Americans, the best Americans from the best America, in hind sight, as it concerns tariffs with our closest geographical allies, I was wrong. The decision I made was stupid, and it was made by an idiot, me. Unfortunately I don't have the intellectual or business aptitude to actually determine what a good decision would be, as opposed to a bad decision. In fact, I am as stupid as the idiots who voted for me. This was the idea that I thought I would be fantastic and I was completely wrong and it's the only idea I had. I apologize to Canada and Mexico, both their leaders and citizens"

It would crush him to make a sincere public apology and backtrack. And he'll still get lynched before the end of year. Because he fucking deserves it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 42 minutes ago

Unfortunately, most of Texas will be fine... ish. Well, as fine as they usually are, which isn't great. I'm really surprised more people aren't up in arms about how much this state fucking sucks ass for literally everything.

[–] Bytemeister 7 points 1 hour ago

Canada ought to put forward two points.

  1. Any tariff trump makes will be matched, and will run for 90 days longer than trump's tariff (make that shit show up big on quarterly earnings numbers)

  2. Any tariff that trump merely mentions publicly, or in private negotiaions, will immediately start a retaliatory tariff from Canada.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They need to do this and make it absolutely clear that it is 100% Trump's fault. They cannot be allowed to make the claim that canada did it unprovoked or for the lulz.

[–] slumlordthanatos 21 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Trudeau got in front of the cameras today and spelled this out. Our government chose to take this action, and Canada is having an entirely reasonable response. Once the tarrifs end, we can go back to where we were, but in the meantime, Americans need to learn how much they rely on Canadian trade and need to understand that this is entirely our government's fault.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

Sadly, fox, oan and the usual right wing echo chambers aren't gonna feed Trudeau's message to their idiot masses. The people he reached are people that probably have at least half a clue what's happening and who is responsible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

There really is no way to back to where we were. We can only go forward from here. This is a bell that can’t be unrung.

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