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It continues! "He denies objective and verifiable facts" (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by Ilovethebomb to c/noncredibledefense

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I'll update you with his response, if any, to the maps.

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[–] Ezergill 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's hilarious. russia and China, the famous anti-imperialists

[–] Ilovethebomb 11 points 1 year ago

You couldn't make this shit up. Or, at least, I couldn't.

[–] EmptySlime 10 points 1 year ago

Of course my dude. Opposing America automatically makes you an anti-imperialist, duh. /s

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Stop this guy from harassing me, you loser!"

[–] FabioTheNewOrder 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, he answered again to one of my posts!! He must be stalkering me since I have no idea how a discussion works in real life given that I have never had any in my real-life experience.

What a bunch of clowns

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 year ago

I've had people accusing me of stalking them in the same way. Half the time I don't even notice usernames, so I don't think I even have the capability to stalk someone.

[+] TheLurker 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gonna say it's a weak argument to attack a strawman related to socialists living in capitalist systems. We don't control where we are born and they are basically forced to live and act within it.

Like, don't get me wrong, this guy is a shitheel and not a socialist but just anti-America.

You're just also the fool. I'd likewise not shame a capitalist for living within a socialist system because, again. They can't control where they are born. I'd just shame them for being a capitalist and wanting to spread pain and misery.

[+] TheLurker -13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] nabax 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just the fact that you think there are communist and capitalist countries makes it clear you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. Jesus Christ. How do you even begin to discuss politics and economics with someone like that? It's like trying to discuss cellular biology with someone who thinks whales are fish and human races exist.

The propaganda is so strong and twisted in the USA you people can't tell the meaning of words anymore! It's truly sad and exhausting. Imagine believing republicanism and democracy have anything to do with the parties that bear those names. Imagine thinking that capitalism and communism are political opinions and that a communist country can even exist today. Have you the read anything by any respected economist even in your life, or does your deep knowledge of politics and economic systems come from memes and American TV? You probably believe what Fox news told you about northern European countries being socialist, too!

This thread is the prime example of the greatest victory of capitalism in this century. The system has made the working class so intentionally misinformed and confused that it would take too much effort to get us all to collectively understand even the most basic of political concepts. We're doomed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you expand more on why it isn't possible for communist or capatalist countries to exist?

-uninformed american

[–] nabax 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism and capitalism are worldwide economic systems, not ideologies or govermnent styles. Capitalism is the way human relations and the exchange of goods work in this era. A so-called communist country would still live in a capitalist world, even if it isolated itself from the rest of the planet like, say, the DPKR does, they still would have to participate in the market relationships with other countries.

Socialism, on the other hand, may be possible to a certain degree under capitalism as a transitive system. The same way there were transitional proto-capitalist efforts in several western countries towards the end of feudalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Very interesting, could you recommend some reading on this topic? Or maybe some videos?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a socialist, I've been homeless three times due to bullshit largely outside of my control. One of them with me TRYING to emigrate. I had to come back to this nightmare hell because I couldn't get a long term visa in time. You can't just....go. Everything is rife with bureaucracy because states don't have open borders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

On their western made phone

Technically its only designed in the West. They're usually made in China

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Am I tripping? I swear I have read that same comment on Reddit a few months ago already. Or is it a copypasta they use?

[–] NOT_RICK 7 points 1 year ago

The astroturfers do get talking points that come up across accounts. I remember one a while ago where if you scrolled through Twitter their magic phrase of the day was something akin to “gaining on all fronts”. It was funny to see the parroting of that exact phrase in a bunch of different tweets

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if it's a copypasta, but it's not an old comment. The time difference between taking the screenshot and posting was how long it took me to crop and censor usernames.

Most likely they just regurgitate the same talking points.

[–] MiddleWeigh 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The argument usually seems to be coming from a "well if we all did it, this wouldn't be an issue!" Perspective. Which, well, I don't know. Doesn't seem very revolutionary to me, at the very least. You'd think you'd want to be in a constant state of revolution, especially towards your dear leaders, in order to keep things heading in the right direction. I don't know enough to say more than that.