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House Democrats are known to be wary of playing any kind of role in shutting down the government. Hell, they hate being perceived as having even considered the idea that a government shutdown could do them political good.

During the 118th Congress, they routinely bailed out a narrow Republican majority when GOP lawmakers just couldn’t pass their own agenda. But now, in the age of Elon and DOGE and with the latest government funding deadline approaching and the House Republican majority as narrow and fractious as ever, there’s real skepticism that Democrats will save Republican leaders from their own failures.

Republican lawmakers certainly are concerned, as evidenced by the fact that they’re already blaming Democrats for not bailing them out.

“Republicans do not have the votes to keep government open on our own,” said Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.). “So if Democrats want to shut it down, they can.”

Such spin runs hard into some pretty obvious realities. As Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), the ranking Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, noted to The Bulwark, Republicans hold the agenda-setting White House, comfortably control the Senate, and maintain a House majority, their whisper-thin two-seat margin notwithstanding. With a governing trifecta come opportunities but also responsibilities.

“Who’s in charge? White House, House, and Senate,” DeLauro said. “They got it all. They got the trifecta. Where are they? They can’t govern.”

While Democrats still don’t want the perception of cheering on a shutdown, the party has also grown convinced that it must secure some concession from Republicans in any government funding arrangement. House Democrats aren’t eager to cut a deal with an administration that has thrown government contracts, appropriated funds, and whole agencies into a woodchipper without lawmakers’ input, let alone consent.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm by no means suggesting anyone go and do it. But doesn't the constitution give the right to bear arms so the people can stand up to a tyrannical government? Seems like it would be legal

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be legal if you win. But until you win, you'd be criminals.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

the bourgeoisie is already seen as criminals to their eyes

might as well give them hell while they whine

[–] leadore 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey Dem politicians, it's very clear. You do what the repubs always do when they're in the minority. You vote against every. single. thing. they try to pass. You make speeches against every single thing they want to do on the floor of Congress, in every committee meeting, every town hall, every interview and every tweet. You also make sure to point out that repubs have the trifecta and everything bad that happens is their fault.

There is no moral ambiguity here, nothing to debate about, nothing to agonize over. "ooh we shouldn't let the govt be shut down should we?" stop that! It's already being shut down, you idiots--it's being dismantled right before your eyes. If the question "should I go along with them on this one thing?" pops into your mind, the answer is NO. If you hear another Dem suggest going along with them on something, you slap that Dem in the face and tell them the next time they say that, it'll be a punch them in the nose. Now replace Hakeem "wimp living in the past" Jeffries with Jasmine Crockett as Leader and get to it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I keep seeing this Jeffries guy everywhere and he just seems like an animated limp dick who loves saying "the American people" every other sentence he utters. He's not it, not even close to it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You vote against every. single. thing. they try to pass.

Nah. If the GqP offers a bill that isn't cruel and evil, dems need to be ready to actually let it go through. Not that it'll happen, but we don't hate the party -- just what they do when it's evil.

[–] leadore 4 points 2 days ago

Is that you, Hakeem?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Do literally anything you fucking clowns

[–] THB 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So much this. "Should we?" Yes you should, fucking do it already.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I hate them so fucking much man.

[–] jimmy90 -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

how do you feel about ukraine and gaza?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like I’ve been protesting against the gaza and West Bank and Palestinian genocide for 20 years, and I feel like Biden pushing Ukraine into nato set off the Russia Ukraine war. I don’t think the current us regime is going to stop it. I just don’t want people to suffer and die

[–] jimmy90 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

do you realize that you may have inadvertently caused the election of trump and ensured putin profits from invading other countries

now you want destroy the dems and replace them with a party with those same beliefs ensuring trump and putin reign forever

i think you might be the bad guys

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

only people who caused trump to win is harris and her campaign staff. only they held the keys to the decisions that insulted literally every single coalition of the democratic base in the span of 4 months. Beyond that its the complacency of the DNC that they could continue to shit on everyone for their oligarch overloads.

the only thing the libtard supporters of harris did was annoy everyone with their holier than thou voting strategies, not realizing that they just pissed off their allies. at worst behavior like yours just tipped the scales into tuning out and not showing up for a small percentage.

[–] jimmy90 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

so you chose trump in the name of gaza and what else?

and what did you win?

who's feeling intellectually diverse now, or maybe that was the plan all along?

and what do you do now the deed is done? attack the real enemy the democrats, not trump

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Same tired comments and same lack of awareness on your end. The only people who selected trump are the trump voters.

You should take some time to self reflect on your behavior towards others.

Its the same lack of empathy and community awareness harris showed that caused her loss to this maniac and what people like myself were desperately warning you idiots about for the entire year leading up to November about both biden and Harris.

But instead of focusing your ire in the two people who could have prevented this outcome you decided to attack and belittle the very fucking people you needed to show up. Great plan champ 🏆.

You're no different than harris (muslims/lgbt+,working americans, black men), biden (muslims,working americans, students) and trump (zelensky/canada/trans/etc)

So remind me how did your plan turn out? Do you know why antifa is quiet atm? Why the protests are so muted?

Because people like myself are tired of having to carry the load while dealing with your idiotic nonsense. Go touch some grass and get some perspective. And lord help me stop blaming other people for the outcomes of your shitty behavior.

Lets be clear: the only thing you morons needed to do realize its easier to pressure harris/biden on the economy, israel, and their corporate whoring than it is to convince 20 million individuals to turn out for people actively being hostile to them.

Harris had a golden window for like a month she completely squandered because you idiots decided that it was a brilliant plan to try and convince 20 million americans to vote for your asshole candidates who were actively being hostile to the demographics of the very people you needed while having to tolerating your asshole behavior. Instead of focusing it on the two morons who were actively pissing on these same people for not having any platform/messaging addressing the actual problems.

When has that EVER worked. Trump won because he does what his base wants. Harris/biden lost because they were actively hostile towards their base's needs

[–] jimmy90 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

actively hostile? i guess you've learned the definition of hostile now trump is in power

did those 20 million think papa trump and putin were going to save their ass instead?

shame you didn't carry the load for harris when the whole country needed you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You're really irrational arent you? 20 million people didnt bother to show up because democrats didnt offer them anything and actively showed they're a toxic genocidal group. And two groups can be actively hostile simultaneously, its not like hostility is restricted to one entity at a time.

Just because people find you so disgusting they wont show up for you doesnt mean they in any way support an even more disgusting individual like trump.

You got stuck with trump because the democrats went mask off and people like myself are tired of dealing with you. so they stayed home. Now you got trump, a candidate who is giving his base exactly what they want and you get to enjoy it along with everyone else.

Take this as the lesson that it is: if you dont support left wing initiatives they can and will just go it alone because thats what we've been doing our entire lives. dealing with the problems you morons cause for everyone else.

If you want left wing votes make sure your candidates follow through on left wing wants. If they dont we wont show up. just like any other self interested group, and no we wont vote for you to just protect minority groups because we have other tools at our disposal for that.

But then you saw how courting the right wing turned out for harris. you dont really have anywhere else to go but to us. Best you start learning how to play nice.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

The democrats did that. I had absolutely no effect on that. I’m not even American. From where I’m sitting, America is the bad guys. Take some personal responsibility for your dog shit country.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

FFS yes they should, but they won't.

Anything that slows down the wheel that crushes us is good, but the DNC doesn't know how to do anything but hand-wring and give performative speeches.

[–] surph_ninja 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They can’t do anything actionable without pissing off the megadonors. The same megadonors bribing the Republicans. And they’d rather lose than piss them off.

Following the Citizens United ruling, this was always the inevitable outcome.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay. How about this? For a moment, Dems should pretend they are the govenrning majority of the House, prepare a sensible budget. Then wait for either Repubs to magically come up with many of the proposals for themselves. Or bargain for them to control Congress.

Do anything other than give in and give up.

[–] SoftestSapphic 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They will reject the handouts Republicans want for billionaires and then wait until the last minute and vote for it anyway.

At least that's what they usually do when the Republicans want to fuck the budget.

If they had balls they would shut down the government until Trump is out of office.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Dems should unironically be required to email out five points of what they did last week

[–] Today 3 points 2 days ago

Shit has to get worse before it gets better. We may as well start now. Bring it on.