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Been using SearXNG for about a year now, and I just can't deal with instances constantly getting blocked by search engines anymore. So I'd like to find something a bit more reliable. I've read that DuckDuckGo has had some controversies in the past, and I wouldn't touch Brave with a 39 and a half foot pole.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Kagi is the best search engine on the web right now.

They charge for it because they need to get money some other way then selling your data. But it's well worth it.

We have to stop expecting things to be free. They can't be free if you want privacy and quality and no ads.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen it mentioned and you're quite right about expecting to get quality, privacy, and free. It's always a pick two.

But can you explain why Kagi is so good?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also a Kagi user here. First thing you'll notice compared to other search engines is no ads at the top.
Comparing between multiple search engines, Kagi consistently delivers relevant results for world wide content, but also for more local searches.
You can further refine your search by up/down ranking sites for yourself or even create customized lenses that search specific (types of) sites if you know where you might find the answer. There are multiple predefined lenses, for example searching only .edu domains, forums or programming language websites.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I could but you should just try it and see what you think. You can search 100 times for free to check it out.

If you find what you are looking for and even getting new good results you never saw on Google, that's a very good rating. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

kagi is great, ddg is also improving

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Startpage.com

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This might interest you. Tl;dr, engines recommended besides DDG, Brave and SearX are:

MetaGer, Mojeek, Swisscows, Qwant and YaCy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Man that website was so useful, thank you for linking it

[–] eruchitanda 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can use Farside with a Whoogle instance.

That way you don't have to rely on a single instance.

[–] jrandiny 1 points 1 year ago

TIL about farside, it looks very useful

[–] Ogygus 0 points 1 year ago

How can I set this up on cromite?

I've added farside.link searx instance "main link" (https://farside.link/searx) to "homepage" but it gives me the same searx instance everytime

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are the controversies with DuckDuckGo? I’ve never heard of anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their browser is sharing data with MS, since they're using their services instead of Google. They've been upfront about it and explained there is no way around it.

As long as you just use their search engine, you're fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In addition to the Microsoft trackers, I referenced this as well in another reply in this topic:

https://reclaimthenet.org/duckduckgo-down-ranking-russian-disinformation

There are plenty of other sources that also reported on this.

[–] filister 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe you should give Qwant a try

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Qwant just shows Bing results, like most alternative search engines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Between the ones I tried startpage, DDG, and Brave the 1st one gives me the best results, all of them are privacy respecting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Startpage.com Other i use are listed on privacytools.io

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have the ability to run your own Whoogle instance?

[–] jrandiny 1 points 1 year ago

Mullvad Leta is a good option but it's not convenient because you need to be connected to their VPN

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I selfhost SearXNG and route it's traffic through a VPN. I rarely get blocked by search engines, and when I do I just change the VPN server. You lose the benefit of your data being intermixed with everyone elses on a shared instance, but you still get the other privacy improvements from SearXNG

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Search (pun) for a SearxNG (read as searching) instance.

It's an open source meta search engine. You can make it even more private if you selfhost it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP said they want to stop using SearxNG.

Also, selfhosting it makesist less privacy friendly, if you are hosting it only for yourself, as the search engines your instance is contacting can easily determine that all those searches are coming from a same IP. Sp, even if it is preventing the telemetry collection, a detailed profile can be made on the person hosting it. Butiff multiple people are using it, profiling becomes difficult. Same is the case with using self-hosted VPNs. They are good against censorship and for some other things, but not for privacy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, thank you for correcting me! It's right there and I didn't see it. My bad.

You raise good points. I confess I hadn't thought about it like that. So, not only you corrected me, you also enlightened me. I'm today's lucky 10000!

Saying 'what kind of an idiot doesn't know about the Yellowstone supervolcano'; is so much more boring than telling someone about the Yellowstone supervolcano for the first time.