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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

I see no good reason to consolidate. Having more options is important in the Fediverse, in particular when the two servers where the communities are on have different focus and different TOS (as jet mentions).

Maybe set up each other as affiliates / magazines / however min does it, but I see a merge as a flat downgrade.

[–] pixelmeow 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No. Different instances having similar communities is a good thing. Otherwise we get back to Reddit, which we don't want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Agreed. Not every instance is the same and rules aren't always the same. I have no issue with posting in low member communities since they are federated anyway. Also, I don't expect technical answers from dbzer0 users, from programming.dev users on the other hand, I do expect more than just "use X over Y because I somebody told me so".

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Thanks for the link, I now subscribed to that.

I think there is no problem at all with having the same community on different instances. Each of them is its own website and should have communities for any topic in the world; federation merely makes sure we don't need separate accounts for each of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

If you want my 2c, I would be in favor of consolidating here. Usually, I don't think there is any harm to having multiple subs which overlap, but in the case where one seems like the "right" answer in terms of where to post, I feel like just having one actually probably is better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Dbzer0 and P.D are both great instances!

I personally support the consolidation to dbzer0!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

seems logical

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

No, dbzer0 does not allow the discussion of crypto currency, which is a useful privacy tool as used by privacy focused services like grapheneos, mullvad, cryptomator, proton, Tor, signal, molly, etc

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS? Tor?

What are you talking about? In what sense do those services “use” cryptocurrency?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They both accept crypto currency donations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Eh. That's different. I get what you mean and I'm not even trying to weigh in on whether they should allow or disallow, but they also "use" the credit card system. That doesn't mean someone should imply that they are endorsing it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would say they are endorsing it by using it, but lets not split hairs. Not being about to talk about a funding part of many privacy tools is too restrictive for a privacy community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I would say they are endorsing it by using it

I feel like I just raised a counterexample to this. Like, literally just, in the very short message you're responding to.

Not being about to talk about a funding part of many privacy tools

Again: Misleading. If you want to talk about crypto, fine. Be honest about what you want to do and why you think it's important.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

which is a useful privacy tool as used by privacy focused services like grapheneos, mullvad, cryptomator, proton, Tor, signal, molly, etc

Don’t these use cryptography and not cryptocurrency? I think the rule is more about stuff like bitcoin which is (apart from monero) really bad for privacy because the transactions are more or less public

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The rule also bans discussing Monero which is rather good for privacy .

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/cryptocurrency/ - Monero is the only endorsed crypto currency from privacy guides.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Here's the actual text of that rule.

No posts promoting cryptocurrency, blockchain or NFTs.

While I do agree that this could perhaps be worded more clearly...

I am 99% sure I have been in threads, on dbzer0, where db0 themself is actually commenting in the same thread, and I've mentioned monero in an actual security context, no problems.

You could ask db0 about this, but my understanding is that the idea here is to prevent cryptoscam bullshit shilling, memecoin pump and dumps, all the scammy bullshit that is 99% of wider internet discourse around crypto.

I'm pretty sure that the scenarios you describe, discussing XMR in the context of actually being a secure and private way to access other privacy and security enhancing stuff.

The active verb in the rule is 'promoting', not 'discussing', as you say.

I do agree this is a bit vague, strictly textually, but I am 99% confident the spirit of the rule is to prevent shilling and the creation of communities based around crypto trading.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Ah, well shit, I'm wrong, fxomt outright states their reasoning.

Well... dang.

Maybe actually try to rope @[email protected] into this discussion?