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No, dbzer0 does not allow the discussion of crypto currency, which is a useful privacy tool as used by privacy focused services like grapheneos, mullvad, cryptomator, proton, Tor, signal, molly, etc
GrapheneOS? Tor?
What are you talking about? In what sense do those services “use” cryptocurrency?
They both accept crypto currency donations.
Eh. That's different. I get what you mean and I'm not even trying to weigh in on whether they should allow or disallow, but they also "use" the credit card system. That doesn't mean someone should imply that they are endorsing it.
I would say they are endorsing it by using it, but lets not split hairs. Not being about to talk about a funding part of many privacy tools is too restrictive for a privacy community.
I feel like I just raised a counterexample to this. Like, literally just, in the very short message you're responding to.
Again: Misleading. If you want to talk about crypto, fine. Be honest about what you want to do and why you think it's important.
Don’t these use cryptography and not cryptocurrency? I think the rule is more about stuff like bitcoin which is (apart from monero) really bad for privacy because the transactions are more or less public
The rule also bans discussing Monero which is rather good for privacy .
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/cryptocurrency/ - Monero is the only endorsed crypto currency from privacy guides.
Here's the actual text of that rule.
While I do agree that this could perhaps be worded more clearly...
I am 99% sure I have been in threads, on dbzer0, where db0 themself is actually commenting in the same thread, and I've mentioned monero in an actual security context, no problems.
You could ask db0 about this, but my understanding is that the idea here is to prevent cryptoscam bullshit shilling, memecoin pump and dumps, all the scammy bullshit that is 99% of wider internet discourse around crypto.
I'm pretty sure that the scenarios you describe, discussing XMR in the context of actually being a secure and private way to access other privacy and security enhancing stuff.
The active verb in the rule is 'promoting', not 'discussing', as you say.
I do agree this is a bit vague, strictly textually, but I am 99% confident the spirit of the rule is to prevent shilling and the creation of communities based around crypto trading.
https://hackertalks.com/post/6007547/6304462
Community Rule 5 - No crypto, blockchain, etc.
Ah, well shit, I'm wrong, fxomt outright states their reasoning.
Well... dang.
Maybe actually try to rope @[email protected] into this discussion?