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Oh hey a Linux furry. Never seen that on Lemmy before
Xenia is about as old as Tux, and was proposed as a Linux mascot back in the 90's
She's actually been parr of quite a few memes on here, so, now you're in it too :)
I read the title and thought it referred to Xenia the Xbox 360 emulator which recently gained Linux support, that didn't make sense.
And I thought it was Xena the Warrior Princess and was hella confused
A transfem Linux furry. Completely unheard of on Lemmy.
my pearls.
I still don't know what people use to create services other than systemd
If you're writing bash scripts you're basically replicating a lot of the functionality of systemd but with larger foot guns
The system V init approach did the job fine for a couple of decadesβeven if the actual service definitions were a glorified shell switch statement as you insinuate.
Canonical did their upstart thing for a couple of years that wasn't too bad to use, personally I'm glad they ended up switching to systemd though.
Abaci and mechanical differentiators did the job just fine for a couple centuries.
Just go back to rocks on a scale we'll be fine
s6, dinit, openrc, BSD rc, are all alternative init systems with their own method of doing thing
Guix_SD has its own init system, Gnu shepherd
All of them are worse in my experience. In a embedded context I use busybox init and if I need something more I used systemd. Systemd actually has a fairly small footprint. A few years ago I ran it on a system with 32mb of ram.
In my experience s6 was considerably faster and less verbose and didn't have systemd's garbage design, but it was considerably more difficult to understand and use
dinit is apparently easy to use, but I haven't used it
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I don't get all the hate for systemd. Chop Suey is an absolute banger.
the fuck is this?
"Systemd controversy"
I think the controversy ended 10 years ago. It is crazy this is still something people will bring up from time to time.
Unlike Extended Memory.
I still say you EM users are playing with fire.
Ah, thanks for the reminder! As a happy systemd user I sometimes forget how stubbornly resentful some people in the Linux community are that they still try to keep this up as a topic. Then again, maybe this is just a troll?
ngl I quite enjoy using systemd
I hace a Xenia sticker on a machine that enthusiastically runs SysD.
Well you shouldn't. Take it off immediately, systemd or the sticker, either will do. She's stated her position on the matter, and you should respect that!
(/jk I'm not actually having a go at you, stickers are cool, and systemd is pervasive)
Was gonna ask what's wrong with Systemd but decided to look it up and I now see why, at least from what I was reading.
I mean, if you want an init (e.g. embedded linux), sysd may not be way you want. On desktops, tho, you ultimately end up hacking together more or less the same functionality with sticks'n'shit. And yes, sysd timers are more readable than crontab, sue me.
Edit: the point is, sysd is not (only) an init.
It's fine, people will whine about anything.
cringe
Yeah, more like "cringe deez nuts."
fair point
furry
hates systemd
thinks anyone still uses PulseAudio
Three wrong opinions in such a short post, impressive.
calling furries wrong opinions in a Linux community
That's a bold move Cotton let's see if it pays off
I am typing this from a device which uses PulseAudio (FuriLabs FLX1 phone). I wish it used pipewire instead, but for now I don't really have a choice. Pipewire doesn't work yet with everything on this phone, so everyone with this phone is using PulseAudio (unless they don't want working audio).
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Systemd is great
I love Podman Quadlets
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