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[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Mmm... ditch Garmin, strap a raspberry pi + car battery to your arm, & away you go.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

HERE We Go? Isn't that owned by microsoft?

[–] I_poop_from_there 17 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This list has some issues, Booking.com is Dutch and Philips' Consumer division is just a name that whitelabels other companies products and is owned by a Chinese investment company.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago

Booking.com is owned by an American company though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Also, Ecosia and Qwant rely on Bing for their search results I believe

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Completely missing are power tools and guns. So please buy Bosch, Festool, Hilti, H&K, Cz., Glock, FN.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fun fact, Hilti, a Liechtenstein company, has 34000 employees. The country itself has 40000 citizens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Yes, they produce mostly abroad afaik. Another somewhat known company from Liechtenstein is cable maker Neutrik. If you've even been in a pro audio or broadcasting studio or a scientific lab, you probably have used their cables.

[–] edgesmash 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I missed the "and guns" part of your first sentence, which made me think, "Whoa, I gotta get me a Glock power drill."

Good to know about Bosch, Festool, and Hilti, thanks for the info. My ancient Dewalt drill just started smoking, so I now know where to look.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

If you want something really good get Makita from Japan. Bosch has two quality levels green is meh to good, blue is very good.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's a shame it needed someone like Trump to actually get European alternatives more attention. They needed attention way before Trump.

Also the food and drinks alternatives are a bit odd. Many brands on the European side I don't recognize, probably because they're pretty local to whoever made this list.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Yep, several Nordic food, drink and snacks brands there. The burgers at Max are good but I doubt they'll deliver from Malmö Sweden to Portugal.

The list has it's shortcomings but it's a good start.

[–] 9point6 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This list seems a bit flawed, for instance on the travel line, Trivago is owned by Expedia in the US and Booking is headquartered in Amsterdam.

Also including BlueSky seems a little odd given the intent

[–] MimicJar 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Re Bluesky I did some "I am not a lawyer" digging.

Bluesky is owned by "Bluesky Social PBC", a Public Benefit Company registered in Delaware.

Generally speaking it means when decisions about the company are made, they must take into account how that decision benefits their stated public value. I struggled to find the specific value wording, but let's assume it's a reasonable one for the time being.

Unfortunately being a PBC is basically voluntary, especially when you're still a private company. You can become a non-PBC with a simple board vote. (A public company would require a stockholder vote.)

Bluesky's board consists of four members, one of which is Bain Capital, aka the company funding Bluesky.

So Bluesky is absolutely a better alternative to Twitter. If everyone left Twitter and moved to Bluesky that would be a monumental improvement.

However Bluesky is not a non-profit company, as the above graphic states.

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[–] UnPassive 5 points 17 hours ago

I live in the USA and I will buy foreign as much as possible. Until we make it illegal most likely

[–] inclementimmigrant 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

As a American, I really do love Electrolux appliances.

Also, for headphones, beyer dynamic. Damn they make a great set of cans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Also, for headphones, beyer dynamic. Damn they make a great set of cans.

Tbf, most great headphone makers are European

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[–] ZILtoid1991 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

One note on Bosch and the European car manufacturers: They're funding the Orbán government among others.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

More info on this, please

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Imo the best European (specifically German) made OS is OpenSUSE. Its Sway spin is the definition of functionality above form, nearly all tools are designed with that in mind and it comes with good defaults out of the box. Granted it also looks amazing if not a tad dated, the unified design and color language however is nice even if that color is green. Also consider donating to the FSFE rather than the FSF.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

OpenSuse is kind of a shit show, not to mention the weirdness with the trademark/pseudo-association it has with Suse. I've been running OpenSuse on a small production server for some years after migrating to it from CentOS. It's mostly fine, but I've had to deal with some sloppy updates breaking things, and have had to completely disable my automatic nightly backup&updates job because of an bug with the OS that no one seems to have solved yet (there's a discussion about it from a while back on their forums with multiple reports, but no resolution) . I'll be switching to Rocky or Alma next time I do major maintenance on it.

Also, unlike most distros, OpenSuse shipped the xzutils backdoor to their users. They quickly retracted it, but still. Not even Fedora did that!

EDIT: To quickly add, I don't think OpenSuse is terrible by any means, but the bar for Linux distros is quite high these days.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Omg, I'm boycotting USA ... since like forever, I'm so sorry, it was totally by accident, thots and players, I hope everyone recovers financially.

Tho the steaming one I do a bit ... differently.

(Also just boycott big corpos as much as possible, no matter the region!!)

[–] danekrae 46 points 1 day ago (10 children)

And for software like Microsoft and Adobe:

[–] synapse1278 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some more recommendations

Category FOSS
Media player mpv
Drawing Krita
Vectorial illustration Inkscape
Video editing Kdenlive
Music making Ardour
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[–] MyDogLovesMe 3 points 17 hours ago

This works a bit for Canada too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Got me an AMD Tuxedo laptop and some Raspberry Pi's, and my gaming desktop is all AMD too. Fuck Intel and NVidia.

I was avoiding everything made in the States before it was cool

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[–] LorIps 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You do know that RedBull is owned by a right-wing extremist in Salzburg who tries to undermine Austrian democracy with Servus TV the same way Murdoch and Springer do in Germany and elsewhere?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consider buying Solovairs instead of Dr martens. They're basically the same, the main difference is that they are made in the UK in a factory that used to make Dr martens before they delocalized their production to Asia

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

The snacks section could use a lot of chocolates but then again as European it's hard to find American chocolate: Milka, Ferrero Rocher, Lindt, Tony's Chocolonely, Callier... Just to name a few.

I was surprised to see Toblerone on the American side, apparently they're under an American company nowadays! TIL
Also, Logitech isn't Chinese? Huh, TIL as well

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