I'm sure the most vulnerable in a lazy and angry, anti-science and anti-reason right wing political landscape, can take great comfort in the fact that there are great keyboard warriors like you, heroically sitting on your lazy ass, heroically doing nothing of value, for their benefit.
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Yeah I'm sure a President Kamala Harris would be doing mass deportations, aligning the US with the authoritarians of the world, threatening to invade allies, making tirllion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy ahd would have Elon Musk gutting the federal government right now.
Yep, that would all be happening. Definitely.
FFS The cope coming from the uncommitted crowd is even more insane the cope coming from MAGAs right now.
The only people smoking all the copium they can are the neo liberals ignoring reality.
You love blaming leftists for not supporting right wing centrist Neo libs but are all crickets when it comes to the obvious reality that DNC leadership sabotaging bernie sanders at every possible opportunity illuminated the fact they prefer a Trump administration rather than upsetting their wall street military and prison industry profiteer donors and allowing any movement left to their platform.
But gk ahead and blame people with a brain and conscious who can’t support a party who’s best campaigning is “vote for us, we aren't as awful and only slightly fascist” “vote for us we will maybe murder 20% less Palestinians while we wave pride flags and type out #blm tweets on a fascist echo chamber platform meanwhile we ignore out of control rent prices and stagnant wages.” Federal minimum wage hasnt been adjusted in 16 years which is the longest it has gone unadjusted in since 1938 with the introduction of the fair labor standards act by FDR.
The rest of the developed world considers the democratic party a right wing party. But go ahead keep on voting for right wing centrist corporatism and cling to your delusional beliefs that one day the democrat party donors will let positive change happen even though all signs point to….. they will never let that happen at any price.
DNC could easily have put a winning candidate on the ticket in 2016 and 2020 but they said fuck that they obviously would rather have authoritarian fascism because their donors prefer that to any option that would threaten their capital.
Also Biden had stricter immigration policies than trump did in his first term.
And whats so sad is you centrists will never admit sanders supporters were right and instead just keep parroting corporate neo liberal propaganda that aims to shirt the blame away from those who are actually responsible and could have prevented this.
All I hear is someone that swallowed the "both sides" bait hook, line, and sinker and is now stuck in denial that you got suckered.
At least some of the MAGAs are now admitting that they got scammed.
Thats all you hear because you have cognitive dissonance.
Its a reality, both sides are funded by the same corporate wall street military and prison industry profiteers. Neo liberals like you ignore this, you stick your head in the sand on the reality of what this means. Those who admit it naively believe that we can just fix this at the ballot box. But even princeton has analyzed the reality and their study shows definitively the anount of influence one has on political policymaking is directly proportional to the anount of money you have with regular working class people having a near zero statistically meaningless effect on any policy regardless how popular or popular it is. But go ahead. Im sure the fact that the amount of dead Palestinian women and children’s corpses would be a few tons less under kamala harris than under Donald trump would have allowed you to sleep far more peacefully at night. Anything short of radical change is unacceptable or at bear minimum instant progress resulting in change is unacceptable and all the tired stale corporate funded grifters of the Democratic party establishment have to offer are platitudes and virtue signaling.
Both sides are not the same and acting like they are is a travesty.
Shhhh...! You'll annoy the cartoonish "purity" of whoever posted this narcissistic drivel.
"I have it ALL figured out! Consistency and patience is boring, and so is homework! I want a instant political messiah, and if I don't get exactly my way on the first try, I'm going to pout electorally, while fondling my purity then lovingly, distractedly sniffing my fingers!
To those more vulnerable than me, all I can say is that you don't exist in MY world!"
Yeah it is funny looking over the last 45 years and its like clearly we have one party destroying things and one that mostly has to go around and fix whats been destroyed and occasionally can get far enough to build out a bit more or better. Its randomly switching from better to worse because better is not perfect that has been killing us.
Yeah, it's more like pulling the lever slows the trolley down. It's still killing people, but pulling the lever is obviously better than doing nothing while we work on a way to derail the trolley.
What needs to be done is the train needs to be destroyed.
It would be better if while the trolley was slowed ANYTHING was done to stop the lever from being pulled but nope. The Democratic party acquiesces to the right at any opportunity and acts as if they are completely powerless to do anything.
Remember that comic about if a button you pushed gave you a 100 dollars but someone on the earth randomly dies ... and everyone is like if you press it 1000 times the likelihood of it killing you is so small who wouldn't press it a thousand times to become a millionaire ?
Yeah that is what we have been living the whole time.
And now the billionaires brag about the button out loud.
TBF, the red trolley runs a lot faster.
And kills more people in general.
I don't understand how you guys can just refuse to realize that conditions for minorities inside the US will deteriorate and people will die from it but wouldn't have under the Democrats.
Well, yes, red color gives it a boost.
waaagh?
Weird how the trolly didn't run over women's right to an abortion due to the trolley being blue.
Both sides are not the same.
Weird how democrats didn't do a damn thing to counter what they did. Codify roe? Nope, pack the supreme court with justices that arent biased and acting in bad faith? Nope. Term limits for supreme court justices? Nahhhh we can also thank RBG for holding onto that position with a death grip until the end so that a fascist could replace her with a fascist justice.
If you think the system can just repair itself if we get out and vote harder, for candidstes that have no appeal to people with a brain because tbey are entirely owned by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers that own and fund the right you're living in a fantasy of delusion.
I didn't say the democrats are perfect. They're ass.
But they're not the ones that killed roe.
Think about it this way.
The Democratic party actively sabotaged bernie sanders twice because they would rather see trump elected than allow a more left leaning presidential administration to gain power. So then in reality the Democrats bare a significant portion of responsibility for the end of roe v wade.
Then stop running defense for them. They're another party of millionaires and capitalists
There is a way. There has been a way. The elite have spent over a century fighting it. I have no idea how to convince people to do it.
We don't even need to become truly communist. In fact our current system could work with a few tweaks.
One way is the general strike. I don't know how many unions are participating. We have 3 years.
Another effective way is stopping transportation. You all remember how much the elite freaked out when just the rail unions went on strike.
Stop the trains. Stop the planes. Stop the semis, stop the barges on the Mississippi, and the Great lakes. Shut down the ports.
The elite enjoy power because they control the money. We don't need to use violence or our voices against them, because they can organize quicker and shout louder.
Economic warfare.
I'd have to say any of the big oil companies. Probably Aramco, because you have the global warming combined with the human rights abuses. You want a depraved organization run by tyrants, that must be at the top.
Lets not fort get blackrock, state street and vanguard who own massive shares of all these publicly traded companies. Its called circular ownership. Collectively they own 20-25% of every legacy MSM outlet. They have their hands in military and prison industry profiteering industries (petro chemical industry being intrinsically tied to these machinations) and they run massive political donation campaigns in conjunction with PR/ propaganda campaigns. The system is rotten to its very core and there is no hope for self remediation without removing money/ corruption/ the very mechanisms of capitalism itself from the system. Western liberal democracy without economic democracy is nothing more than cleverly disguised class dictatorship.
What kind of mental failing do you suffer from, that millions of Palestinian, Ukrainian, and transgender lives are nothing to you?
What world do you live in that democrats have not just been complicit puppets to Netanyahu? Biden and kamala wouldnt even admit there is a genocide going on. Their pockets are bulging woth AIPAC and CUFI donations.
IF A PARTY ACTIVELY SABOTAGES ANY LEFTWARD MOVEMENT THEN THEY ARE NOTHING BUT CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. THE BALLOT BOX IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT ANY MEANINGFUL CHANGE. WAKE TF UP. MINIMUM WAGE ISN'T LIVABLE EVEN IN CALIFORNIA WHERE IT’S $20/hr FOR SOME CORPORATE FAST FOOD WORKERS. BESIDES A REVOLUTIONARY EFFORT THE ONLY WAY TO AFFECT ANY CHANGE IS A MASS SIT IN/STRIKE WHERE AT LEAST 20% OF WORKERS REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE UNTILL THINGS CHANGE AND THIS WILL BE MET WITH MILITARIZED VIOLENCE BY THE RULING CLASS.
YOU ACT LIKE IF KAMALA GOT IN NETANYAHU / LIKUD WOULD HAVE JUST STOPPED BOMBING GAZA AND MURDERING WOMEN AND CHILDREN. 🤡
This is the two party system for you:
Working class poor & homeless: “help we are starving please do something😫: Republicans: “No” Democrats: “No 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️#BLM”
Also Ukraine is a proxy state and has been since the Berlin wall fell. This is a war being fought over resource and trade route control for the benefit of the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers who fund both parties. Its amazing how the side cosplaying as leftists just support whatever war the media convinces them is just. SEND MORE BOMBS TO UKRAINE, the working class can starve and live on the street. Food stamps haven't been adjusted in years and the price of groceries increases every week due to rampant corporate price gouging.
Nice six paragraph comment. I skimmed it. Looks like none of it addresses the fact that a Trump presidency is in the process of killing millions of innocent people. I guess you just don't think the lives of minorities are important.
Voting between the democratic party and far right maga is like choosing wether you want to amputate your fingers or your whole arm. Its still an amputation.
The Democratic party by the measures and standards of the rest of the developed world is a center right wing party. Stop trying to convince the rest of us that voting for the neo liberal agenda is a win for society. Its only a win for wealthy people so they can virtue signal and placate people like you who really don't give a fuck about implementing actual real change.
Do you think Palestinians in gaza see the 4 years of biden as a net positive for them? What planet do you all live on? Oh i know the one where the main stream media has any credible journalistic integrity and isnt an obvious propaganda machine for wall street military and prison industry profiteers.
If the democratic party was really so virtuous and ready to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to stop trump, then they would have ran bernie sanders In 2016 and 2020 as the dem nominee. we would have just come off of 2 terms of the best president since FDR. But the dnc showed us that it preferred the prospect of a Trump administration over any prospective administration that veered left of their centrist status quo bullshit. Saying otherwise means you have your head in the sand or more likely you are arguing in bad faith.
Four more paragraphs and you still don't care how many Gazans die.
Neither did biden kamala or any other zionist war mongering regime taking donations from AIPAC & CUFI and puppeted by defense contractors.🥴🤡
Nice strawman though
Yeah, I'm saying you're not actively and effectively genocidal like Donald Trump, you're just dumb and complicit, like Joe Biden.
All you neo libs are so entirely removed from reality. You would let dnc leadership shoot you in the foot and blame anyone besides the person(s) who pulled the trigger.
You think the DNC leadership chooses the president? I thought it was the voters who choose the president. The voters who "pulled the trigger". That's why I'm saying you're complicit. Because you pulled the trigger, and I don't think you voted for Harris, given how little you care for Palestinian lives.
Dnc leadership sabotaged sanders. In some iowa districts they declared clinton the caucus winner even though sanders supporters outnumbered clinton supporters 2 to 1.
The idea that democracy is still functioning and votes are being fairly counted in the day and age of technocracy is just super delulu. There are 14 traits of fascism and 13 of 14 are blatantly evident to varying degrees regardless of which party sits in the white house. The 14th is the only one we can say is plausibly deniable and it is fraudulent elections.
In Germany electronic voting was deemed unconstitutional by their version of the supreme court because with electronic voting it is impossible to differentiate between legitimate and fraudulent results for anyone without expert training in programing and IT.
But go ahead and keep believing that our elections have integrity while living in a society where money controls everything, where supreme court justices can take bribes and say they are just gifts, trust me bro. Where 6 major corporations all circularly owned by black rock, state street and vanguard own 90% of the available media. Y’all are delusional. If there was legitimate proof that our election process has been rigged since the 80’s you all would still keep on the delulu idea that ballot box initiated progress was still possible.
At what point will Neo liberals admit they were wrong and that revolution is the only option considering things will only get worse from here and the party you all were hoping to affect change is obviously compromised by corporate money? Because it sounds like never. Sounds like you are so enamored with the concept of order and bureaucracy that you wont allow any other avenues for change to be considered.
guy blaming regular people for not supporting a controlled oposition party calls Someone calling out the obvious issues with a broken right leaning centrist billionaire owned party cos playing as left wing dumb and complicit, that's really rich.
The people who are dumb and complicit are those actively making excuses for a political institution that obviosuly wont do what’s necessary to stop fascism and actively legislates for it.
You know whats extremely harmful to minorities and LGBTQ people? Drug prohibition. Which has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to reduce the demand and supply of narcotics. All it does is allow bigoted ideals to permeate militarized police forces while increasing the black market value of narcotics and funneling poor marginalized people into profit extraction centers called prisons which corporations fatten themselves upon using slave labor. Crickets on that issue. We can directly blame prohibition and the dea for fentanyl analogues proliferating the narcotic supply. Since they are more potent by logarithmic factors it mitigates risk to smuggle these instead of the traditional opium poppy products. So the war on drugs is directly to blame for the evolution of the black market supply to fentanyl analogues.But go ahead and virtue signal about the number of Palestinians that would be magically saved from death with a Harris walz administration. What a joke.
There are 3 more paragraphs to help get it through your skull how clueless you are. Just another neo liberal cosplaying as someone with left leaning sentiments. 🥴🤡
And wow you can count
But you dont have the brain to see that this is the result of the DNC who showed plain and simple they preferred a Trump administration over any administration that veered left from their status quo neo liberal platform and worked harder than they did securing votes to sabotage sanders 2 back to back election cycles
And now everyone reading the comments knows why radical communities cannot be on .world.
Neolibs will never admit they were wrong.
They are too busy licking boots and believing the propaganda they are fed that those boots are actually world class A5 Wagyu. Yummm yummm i guess a few les hospitals and schools bombed in whats left of palestine is a massive win for neo-libs?
Reminder that the system doesn't have to be two party. Ranked choice voting (aka single transferable vote), proportional representation - these things increase political competition by making more parties mathematically possible and give us greater control over our government.
It's already been implemented in some States and municipalities across the country. If yours isn't one of them, it could be. There are several orgs trying to get this done such as Rank The Vote. Check to see if you have a local chapter and how you can help them!
I think more education on the topic, for ranked choice in particular, is needed before implementation. See: Eric Adam’s win in nyc.
More education is definitely needed - that's the stage the movement is at. But you (whoever is reading this) could be the one to educate people. The emphasis of most of these local chapters is education, and they'll teach you how, where, and when to educate people.
Yeah but the blue trolley makes less noise so I can ignore it while we ride to brunch
Fuck me, if that doesn’t accurately sum up the neo liberal agenda idk what does.
#bothSides
If 20% of workers stopped participating then that would be met with militarized violence and would dissolve any illusions most people have about a free and just society. This could work or it might just be one step towards a real revolution.