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[–] daggermoon 1 points 30 minutes ago

I'm young and I fucking hate apps. I have android phone without a google account which works well for the most part. I'm too dumb to install LineageOS. and Linux phones aren't really an option in the US.

[–] leadore 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I use a dumbphone. I'm not buying a smartphone just so I can play these stupid games, and I'm installing an app for every fucking business I interact with. I realize there will one day be a point where I won't be able to do things I need to do without one, but until then I have no desire for one. Fortunately they haven't made the parking meters here require a smartphone yet.

My grocery store still uses loyalty cards for most discounts (which is irritating enough), but also has "digital coupons" that require an app so I can't get that. Theoretically I could go to their website and print them off but that's not worth the effort. I have to pay close attention to the price signs they put up because some of them say "with digital coupon" in small print, meaning "not for you, bitch". You know who doesn't pull this kind of shit? Walmart. So I wind up getting a lot of my groceries there so as not to be discriminated against.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Flipphones.... I want a full keyboard phone again. Maybe even a slider full keyboard. Those were the days.

Apps... I evade most apps as much as i can or if i must use closed source apps, i will put them in a secondary profile.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm open to hear if you guys disagree with me, but that is not simply about not having a smartphone as much as it is about not having cell service, not using data service. If a person uses a libre VoIP app, there is no need for cell service, and people actually can live happy lives disconnected from internet when they are outside or in public.

Society must revert their mentality and not expect constant immediate access to everything. Absolutely nothing happens on the internet for personal activity that can't wait a few hours or the next day.

I use phone only for direct communication, zero multimedia, zero social media on phone. Everything else is done on computer. Especially banking, that is on computer website only for security, never on phone. I despise and resent using a phone for websites

[–] [email protected] 2 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

If a person uses a libre VoIP app, there is no need for cell service

I don't follow. Don't you need internet for VoIP? Unless the point is to have a phone that gets zero connection while outside a wifi, which sounds kinda pointless?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

Correct, use VoIP with wi-fi service instead of cell and data. It also makes the calls untraceable for location for best privacy practices. There's no way to trace where in the world a phone is if using wi-fi to call standard phone numbers. For personal calling, not a work phone, some people don't care about messages and calling when they are out walking, shopping, attending events. They want to focus on the real world around them, not phone stuff.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Not having a phone really sucks in this day and age. Imagine getting out of jail for something stupid like marijuana possession and then a parole violation due to a missed appointment. No one will hire you with your rap sheet. You live in a halfway house with a bunch of petty BS every day. And you can't keep up with your parole demands because of how much your lack of a phone gets in your way. At the end of the day, there IS a way to succeed if you make the right choices, but shit, it's just so much harder for some people to make the right choices when every day is crisis mode. And all because of WHAT?

[–] dukeofdummies 49 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

I'd never do it, but we have one at work and he's singlehandedly causing so much grief at work. Because none of the engineers wanna use a security app for login. They want a fob.

IT refuses to pay for fobs and wants us to use an app, but they also don't want to pay for a phone for anyone in engineering just to use the security app because it opens a floodgate of people with company phones.

It's just wonderful to watch this fight from the sidelines sipping tea.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I have no smartphone and am unable to access any of my college resources or email from home because you need a security app for remote login. I've got in trouble a few times for it but idk what I'm supposed to do. I wasn't able to access my Exam Timetable because of this and had to ask some friends when the exams were because my teachers didn't know (somehow). It's very annoying.

Edit:

It also took a few weeks of difficulty to get the free bus pass the college gives out as they only gave it out on the bus pass app, I have a card that you scan, I've never had any issues with the card and yet EVERY day people complain about the app not working as you need an internet connection (in an area with dodgy internet) for the app and the app is apparently not very good in other areas. I think people are starting to get jealous of my bus pass card.

[–] toynbee 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

You could install an android emulator on your personal computer then run the authenticator from there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

@toynbee @DeaDvey aren't there authenticators that run on desktop browsers? Or does it have to be a specific one

[–] toynbee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The OC said in a different comment that you must be on the college network to set it up.

You don't need to tag me, by the way; I get a notification if someone responds to me directly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

sorry, I'm viewing this from mastodon so the setup's different.

[–] toynbee 4 points 4 hours ago

All good. Hope you have a great day!

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

Why are you cheering for a lack of self-control?

Smartphones are great. You just need to be smart enough to not let them use you.

It should put into perspective who is a useful idiot, and who is not.

[–] tomalley8342 1 points 41 minutes ago

Perhaps his friends do not have smart phones, because they do not want smart phones.

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[–] FreakinSteve 22 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

The same goes for customer loyalty cards. All market tracking schemes should be rightfully banned.

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