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[–] sumguyonline -5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This is an extremely important point you just made! Pure socialism is impossible for humanity due to the individuals that are so easily corruptible. We need a system similar to socialism, capitalism, AND communism, that takes the best of all of them, abandones the worst, and compensates properly for human nature. Human nature is why everything fails, not the theoretical systems themselves. Theoretically they work.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i mean, lenin era USSR might be socialist probably closer to communism though, but it was most definitely NOT socialist under stalin or communist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

the biggest difference was the war

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[–] SmoothOperator -2 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Owning the means of production is a means, not an end in itself. I'd argue the social democratic welfare state comes impressively close to achieving the ends.

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