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[Debunked] Valve Is Building a 'Steam Console' To Rival PS5 and Xbox, Rumour Claims (insider-gaming.com)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Debunk from dev Pierre-Loup Griffais ‪@plagman.bsky.social‬

"we've done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there's nothing meaningful to read into there."

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[–] krimson 64 points 5 days ago (7 children)

This rumor has been going around for a few months now, mostly because of some commits targeting new unknown hardware to SteamOS afaik.

I hope the rumor is true, I love my steamdeck but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome. If they run the same exact OS as on the steamdeck you could even do stuff like ad-free youtube using Firefox.

[–] newthrowaway20 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome.

I got news for you! You can literally build a computer to do this right now, no need to wait for steam.

[–] krimson 29 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I know that. I want something ready to go with a dedicated controller and not fiddle around with components myself that may run too hot or are too noisy etc.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Do you want some eggs? I got news for you! You can literally build a chicken shed right now, no need to wait for farmers.

Seriously, the same captain obvious answer all the time when a Steam console is mentioned. It’s infuriating. Consoles exist for a reason, to provide a ready and verified environment for playing games without any fiddling.

[–] newthrowaway20 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Can I build a chicken? That's the real question..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Please don't fuck a chicken

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

There's also been some arm SoC work by valve, could be they're gearing up for a new SteamStation, could be that they're opening up SteamOS for 3rd party manufacturers like Lenovo. Only time will tell.

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[–] GeneralEmergency 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Steam Machine 3: This time it's personal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Instead of the Electric Boogalo, it's the Steam Dreamaroo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good things come in 3s....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Not at valve they dont

[–] SolidShake 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Again?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Third time's the charm. Well, in their case second time was the charm, the steamdeck was such a success that I understand the decision to try out the steam machines idea once again.

[–] VindictiveJudge 10 points 4 days ago

If they build it as an actual console rather than the previous thing where anyone could put out a PC, install SteamOS on it, and call it a Steam Machine, then it will probably be genuinely competitive with Xbox. Sure, it'll still be a standard X86-64 system running Linux, but they need brand control.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I think I'm part of steam machine's target market. Games are leisure time. I don't want to be worrying about processor-graphics cards combos. I don't want to worry about which game runs, or optimising settings. I want to turn it on and have fun.

Sadly, I've been in emulating recently just to get away from micro transactions so I have to spend a lot of time tinkering. First mini pc that flawlessly runs 360/PS3 and is less than £500 I'm getting it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (6 children)

You’ll have a long way to go on the software side before worrying about hardware

Like you said though, just buy a prebuilt and you’re already there

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

The article has been updated, this isn't true unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (8 children)

This could be nice for folks that want a console-like living room experience that "just works".

Me? I built a Linux HTPC a dozen years ago and have periodically updated the graphics card (it gets the hand-me-downs from my main gaming PC) so I don't need this. I'm far more interested in a Steam Controller 2 😄

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A new steam link would have been nice

[–] Sarmyth 4 points 3 days ago

Ya know what's crazy? I got a Steam link when it became available and it barely worked because my computer and router sucked more than I realized at the time. Then last year someone made a video about it and said how awesome it was and I remembered I had it and plugged it in.

They were right! It still works great, and since I've upgraded everything since then, I now know my computer was the bottleneck back then. I'm curious what new features a new Steam link could add to make it worth a whole new device at this point.

[–] drmoose 8 points 4 days ago

Instant pre-order for me. Steamdeck has been by far my favorite gaming console but TV performance is only good for low requirement games and I'd love the same experience for proper 4k gaming even if it's medium fidelity.

[–] Tattorack 6 points 4 days ago

The Steam Box is back!

[–] mrfriki 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I'm not the target for such device, I play on my PC and on the Deck when on the couch. But I wish the rumor is true, it will boost PC gaming as a whole

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Something something steam link…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Overall, this makes sense. We've kind of acted like console gaming is somehow separate from computer gaming because of consoles exclusive monopolies on various titles, but it's become much clearer over time that it's actually PC which has been gather exclusive titles by... just... Being easy to develop for with no requirement to port? It looks more and more like we're seeing PC taking over the gaming space more and more. Hopefully valve can pull this off right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

There are still advantages to a fixed platform like the Steam Deck. It makes a fixed hardware platform to optimize for. Anything that runs on Deck should also run on another PC.

Likewise, a Steam Box that was popular enough would provide a target hardware platform with higher spec.

Most hardware manufacturers will have too high paced a release schedule, so unlikely to provide a stable hardware spec.

[–] donuts 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

From reddit:

is this trust worthy?

Extasis mentions this guy handledeck as the source

https://xcancel.com/HandleDeck/status/1886501899832021224#m

which links to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgKzbHIWDK4

which just mentions this article https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.0-RADV-RDNA4-State

saying: "by reading this article carefully we can come up to the conclusion that..."

Seems all bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I'm not sure what would be the point. Isn't it "just" a PC with Steam OS running on it? Would it be to help people just default to SteamOS?

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[–] NIB 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Having a popular, standardized pc with fixed hardware and OS would enable game developers to aim that as minimum(or recommended) requirement and to optimize their games for that. And since it will be running linux, this means that gaming in linux would become even more mainstream and better supported too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also being theoretically not portable, it could be more powerful than the Steam Deck making emulation even easier.

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[–] starchylemming 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

aren't the other consoles just pcs with custom os?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Kinda, but not quite. The main difference, imo, is that consoles have several anti-tampering measures in place, often as exclusive hardware, to ensure owners don't jailbreak. The PC is, by design, open and "unsafe", without measures to stop owners from doing whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

When the first Steam Machines were announced years ago, I assumed they'd all be running the same hardware like consoles do, and I thought that was actually quite a good idea because it could give game devs a sort of "baseline" set of hardware to aim for, as opposed to the sort of "vaguely make it run on Windows" system we seem to have currently. So if the new ones are all more-or-less the same kit like the Steam Decks are, and they take off well enough, it could be handy in that way I guess.

Plus it'll presumably run SteamOS so more Linux exposure which I always appreciate.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I run Bazzite HTPC Version on my gaming rig, i would consider this the best console experience nowadays. A huge amount of games, no need to rebuy games i allready owned on a previous PC and most games run out of the box just fine.

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