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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by vegeta to c/technology
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ironic that the PRC is investigating Google for being a monopoly while it is itself a monopoly of a single party.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Rules for thee, but not for me :)

[–] callmepk 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Got curious and went to the original page, and it is literally just one sentence vague announcement:

Due to Google's alleged violation of the "Anti-Monopoly Law of the People's Republic of China," the State Administration for Market Regulation has lawfully initiated an investigation into Google.

Really not sure what they actually launched the antitrust probe for; this is just pure political drama lol

Edit: Okay, it is possibly because of Android dominance, but again, still a political drama

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you really not sure? Say what you will about China, but let's shelf that for a minute. Much like meta, google is an ever spreading cancer that tries to insert itself into every person's life and has unlawfully used their trust position to do so everywhere in the world. Regardless of Chinese motivations, odds are google has violated anti-trust there too.

[–] callmepk 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Google sure is a cancer, but you are not putting it in the context. They literally only provide two major services in Mainland China:

  1. ads, which basically allow Chinese business to put ads on Google Ads and Google AdMob
  2. developer services like GoLang and Tensorflow, but their main business in China right now is Android licensing for Chinese Mobilephone brands for their international versions.

So,

  1. For ads, Google AdMob and Google Ads are not accessible in China;
  2. for dev services, all Android phone in China right now are basically based on AOSP, because in China Google Framework is not useable.

From this standpoint, there is no visible reason for an antitrust probe in China.

Edit: After digging into China's antitrust law, they do include laws that allows investigations into companies that is monopoly overseas as long as the company has business in China. So yeah, they do have reasons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Virtually any smartphone manufacturer in China apart from Huawei and Apple pay licensing fees to Google. Sounds very monopoly when tens of manufacturers pay licensing fees to the same company. Right or wrong motivation there's a compelling case unless one hits the great mental firewall of "China bad".

[–] callmepk 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, you are possibly right here. After digging into China's law, they do include laws that allows investigations into companies that is monopoly overseas as long as the company has business in China.

But my end point still stands; this is still a very specific time to start the investigation, Android dominance is definitely a part of cause, but in the end it is just a part of political drama between two asshole governments that end up not benefiting both county's people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Really not sure what they actually launched the antitrust probe for; this is just pure political drama lol Edit: Okay, it is possibly because of Android dominance, but again, still a political drama

It's not political drama, they were happy to look the other way when there was a quid pro quo. There isn't one anymore so they enforce their own laws. It's 2025 not 1825, we're not right just because we speak English. Although I'm sure a non insignificant portion of the US executive would be more than happy to blockade Beijing and make it rain artillery fire.

The US was also happy to look the other way when Uyghur slaves were manufacturing components for Apple. It's just normal geopolitics.

[–] TheBat 0 points 2 weeks ago

How did they, if their products aren't even available in China?

[–] TheGrandNagus 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren't they banned in China anyway?

[–] callmepk 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Their search service is banned but they still have ad (AdMob and Google Ads) and developer services (GoLang, Firebase, Android, Tensorflow, etc) there. and their last customer-targeted service remaining are Google Chrome (www.google.cn/chrome) and a website directory Google 265 (www.265.com)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Whats 265? Looks like a search engine?

[–] callmepk 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's Web Directory. The search engine part is Search Plus, Baidu, Sogou and Bing, where the default search plus is just Baidu again.

[–] essteeyou 7 points 2 weeks ago

This is how it's going to be for the next few years then?

[–] Deadeyegai 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Antitrust probe into a company whose products have been banned and shamelessly copied in every way possible is just so funny at this point that it is like ???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's a political move. By harassing one of USs largest corporations, the CCP hopes Sundar Pichai will call the morons in charge to complain and ask for concessions.